RE: Is 'faith' really a 'great cop-out'?
November 3, 2008 at 12:16 pm
(This post was last modified: November 3, 2008 at 12:21 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(November 3, 2008 at 12:12 pm)Daystar Wrote:Errr, I don't get your point.(November 3, 2008 at 11:22 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote:(November 3, 2008 at 10:48 am)Daystar Wrote: Tell me where science disagrees with the Bible.Miracles and the biggest miracle of all, God himself. The scientific method does not support miracles, the bible does.
You see! That is the problem, buddy. If science could test a miracle it wouldn't be a miracle it would be science. If it could even simply define the word god as I have done for you (any one or thing that is "mighty" or "venerated") it could come to a better understanding.
The apostle Paul advised Christians to avoid spiritism like it was a plague. (Galatians 5:19 - 21) A science minded person would scoff this as superstition. The Greek word he used which is translated as spiritism is pharmakia from which comes our English word Pharmacy. Primitive peoples even today use various drugs to give them access to 'the spirit world.' Many of our modern day drugs come from research done in modern day 'primitive' cultures.
Vine’s Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words: “PHARMAKIA . . . primarily signified the use of medicine, drugs, spells; then, poisoning; then, sorcery, . . . See also Rev. 9:21; 18:23. . . . In sorcery, the use of drugs, whether simple or potent, was generally accompanied by incantations and appeals to occult powers, with the provision of various charms, . . . to impress the applicant with the mysterious resources and powers of the sorcerer."
I posted here that the Greek word spirit is pneuma from which we get the English words pneumatic, an invisible active force (not entity).
Now, from a scientific perspective, not unlike an archaeologist looking upon the ancient drawings in some cave what does that tell you?
Anything?
Science can't test miracles because there is no evidence for the existence of any!
Miracles are totally against science and science is totally against miracles and miracles are in the bible. Thats the contradiction.
If science could define the word God? The scientific method doesn't design words or interpret definitions. Science is about evidence, researching and re-researching evidence and probability etc.
The reason why no one can define the word God is because there are so many Gods and so many reasons for it! Like Steven Weinberg said, and I'm paraphrasing, "If you believe God is energy you can find God in a lump of coal".
Theres no arguing with that, but how is a lump of coal God-like? it isn't. Its just that the word God can be used so flexibly and diversely that you can disguise it as a supernatural being while still saying its in natural stuff that have nothing to do with anything supernatural!