(April 30, 2014 at 9:48 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote:(April 30, 2014 at 9:44 pm)ducketto Wrote: And what is the Catholic Church in its truest sense? It would stand alone, but not without Her members. So to judge an entire organization is unreasonable, as shown through my analogy you skimmed over. Do you at least see my point, the illogic?That's bullshit and you know it.
You think the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the Church's proscription against homosexuality, it's stance against women, the systematic cover up of child rape---none of that is the Church's responsibility as an organization?
Listen to what I have said. Are you admitting then, that the Church is so perfect that She cannot falter here on earth? Or are you setting unrealistic expectations. It is the same old song and dance every time. I say this, you respond with the Crusades and child abuse cases that, while significant issues WITHIN the Church, that is, issues that needed to be worked out, just as a team focusses on issues in practice, really are beside the point of the Church's mission.
