Gay pair to adopt children of unfit Catholic parents

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You do know that homosexuality has been documented in animal species all across the world, right? It's a natural thing. In social animals, there is more to interaction than "stick penis in vagina, make babies". Sexual attraction, pleasure, bonding, all of it plays a role. And some animals, humans included, bond with and/or attracted to the same gender.

So? Cleft lips are also fairly common in many other species. Doesn't make them less abnormal.
Natural it may be. But not all that is natural is good, nor is all that is natural normal.

And sometimes natural is good. And since homosexuality has been around since the dawn of humanity, it's not exactly abnormal, either.

Besides, I've stated the main and biologically relevant function of the reproductive male organ. Same goes for the female one.

So what? Why is the biological function of a penis or vagina even relevant here? How does that determine what a healthy family is? Family is about human bonds, not what a penis or vagina can do.

It's not abnormal when it happens all the time, in humans, and in other species. It's a natural behavior. If you don't like that, too bad. That's nature. Just because you're straight doesn't mean it's "abnormal".

Natural or not. I never said its unnatural. I merely stated that its abnormal. Meaning, contrary to its purpose.

Did you know the clitoris has no other purpose other than sexual gratification? Has no bearing on reproduction whatsoever. Genitals evolved to be pleasured and humans derive pleasure in many different ways. Homosexual acts fulfill that purpose, too.

There is nothing there that says that a child must have a man and a woman as a parent in order to be raised properly. It's all assumption. Family is more than your biological egg and sperm donors. Also, the gay parents that I know? They are raising their own biological children. Gay people have children, it happens all the time.

Yes, because that wasn't the question. You asked me how I determined the norm for the familial institution and I answer your question.

They are raising their own biological children. Gay people have children, it happens all the time.

Since you mean like "their", I'm assuming that you refer to a couple. But since that is biologically impossible, I'm guessing that in case of lesbians one either went to a sperm bank, or in case of gays, they found a surrogate mother, and one donated his sperm to do it.
Happens all the time, right?

Actually, many gay people have children with opposite-sex partners. Yes, gay people have straight sex because sexuality isn't black and white. Sometimes they question their sexuality, sometimes they're bi, sometimes they're afraid to come out of the closet so they try to start a nuclear family. They are people, too.

While it may have been the most common way to raise a family, it was not the only way. Humanity has had many different versions of the family unit throughout it's history, and society didn't crumble. You are acting like someone born into a certain religion claiming that all other religions are wrong, but yours is right because that's how you've been raised.

To be honest, I have difficulties picturing where on earth there is any other definition of a "normal" family than a father, mother and child?

You should come out of the narrow hole more often, then.

As I said before, it is considered normal mainly due to the fact that a child is born only through the sexual union of two people. The logical thing would be for the child to be raised by its biological parents. Why is that so hard to accept?

Why is it so hard for you to accept that the world is not black and white and human interaction is incredibly varied and complex? I'm sorry if that scares you, but that's real life.

In time, this has been applied to adoptions, where people that fit the above mentioned description have taken children that were not biologically related to them as their own.
Gays were never part of this.

Yes, they are.

Why do you have to force them into the institution?

Because they deserve to have happy families just like every one else, and there is nothing wrong with it. Why are you so against a child having loving parents? Because you don't like the idea of butt sex?

there are many types of family. What you describe is a 'nuclear' family, and you believe it is the "right" one, which is ridiculous. There is no "right" family. There are extended families, blended families, polygamous families, gay families, etc.

Extended families are based on the nuclear family.
One such family type is a clan or tribe. Its a collective of smaller families, the one we just discussed.
Polygamous families are based on the same principle. The child does not have multiple mothers, it has a single mother, but many step sisters and step brothers.

There are also families with women who have multiple husbands and the children don't know who the father is. And there are families with single parents. None of this explains why gay families are bad. They are just a different kind of family, one that you've decided to be prejudiced against.

This is where I tell you to crawl out of your narrow world-view.

I'm fine in my narrow hole. Here, degeneracy does not find a place to crawl into.

I think it's already in there.