RE: Atheism = Desperation
November 2, 2014 at 5:26 am
(This post was last modified: November 2, 2014 at 5:45 am by WinterHold.)
(November 1, 2014 at 1:37 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Also, I'm pretty fucking tired of this "you all believe the universe happened at random?! Herp a derp derp herp!" strawman.
Then how was it created ? believe me I heard many people tell about this random thing, if your answer is "we don't know yet", then it's the same religious answer i have for many other things.
(November 2, 2014 at 5:26 am)robvalue Wrote: You say this universe is self-evidently one that was created. What would a universe look like that was not created?
We recognize things as created and so having a creator by contrasting with things we know occur naturally. We have no other universe "occuring naturally" to compare to.
Saying there is a creator is an assertion, not an argument.
Saying the creator is whatever god you happen to favour is an assertion on an assertion.
It's not me who turned it into an argument, to me it's already a fact.
http://mic.com/articles/75869/this-will-...-out-there
It's just this..if you try to convince me that something with the size of the universe, along with micro organisms -like us compared to its size- with such complication like the human biology, along with discoveries stating that the full size of the universe is HUGE but there are billions of huge universes too,
All of that, holds no evidence of a creator, then..sorry, we go our separate paths. I just simply know that something so big can never ever be without a creator. Just like your current computer OS . It's impossible to say "well, there is no enough evidence that humans made it".
My assertion of assertion is the faith I chose.
What many don't get, is that it's already asserted. The complexity & size of the universe is the assertion of god.
