Abortion dialogue I've been having...

[Samson]

How is that a condition of choice? That is the default if we are beginning from free choices...

Since I do not believe in banning Abortion, and believe that to be an option for women/children who are raped and molested, then it is "Their" choice to have an abortion. Some choose not to, some choose to....So it is a "Choice" of that person in situations such as rape and molestation.

If a state/country bans abortion, then it no longer becomes a "Choice" for said person(s). (Unless of course you have the money to leave your country/state and travel a bit.....But then again, I guess a fifty cent clothes hanger is just as much a choice, right?.....)

Why not?

Well, this would be a BIG depend....It would depend on if it was federally paid for (I.E.) by the tax payers. If it was, then I would not want my tax dollars going towards a person who can't seem to grasp the concept of what a BC pill is or for that matter the hundreds of contraceptives that are cheap and available.

This would also answer my "a" right below this post for your other "Why"... If paid for by them, then whatever they want to do with their body, is their decision/Choice.

And is what you believe also what the woman believes? If not: why should your beliefs have any particular precedence over her own? Is this not her body we are referring to here? Would you presume to have rights over her own in regards to her body?

Of course not, unless I'm having to pay for this woman to have abortions as a form of Birth Control or pop out babies that I will eventually be paying for, hence the reason stated about the children being taken away by the state.

Oh? And when should it not be available...? Your examples above seem rather silly in my eyes... but perhaps you will explain them?

Define 'medically subscribed danger' for me... then tally that with the facts that bearing children is often 'the ruiner of vaginas' (and other features of one's body); possessing the damn things is often damn near psychological hell; supporting their continued existence is a massive expenditure of one's time, money, and often happiness.

I'll give you two medical reasons, out of many more....
1. If a small child is raped and becomes pregnant, it should already be known that there are many risks that can and has happened with someone so young trying to carry a baby long term. (Yes there are risks even for an adult, but I would hope you and everyone else is smart enough to know the difference)..
If the "Child" does not get an abortion in the beginning, and 6 months later starts having these complications, which could risk her life, then the doctors should have the option at their disposal to abort the fetus.

2. As I stated before, even adults can have complications throughout a pregnancy..If any one of those come into place, then aborting during their term should at least be an option. In other words, Mother's life comes first.....But of course, if the mother wanted to die and not abort, then that's a totally different debate.... Point is, that I would never want that "Choice" (Abortion) for the woman to be illegal.


Sae, after reading your last paragraph on this post...Are you saying that you are Pro-Choice as well now?? Or not?

Fuck, now you have me confused....LOLOL