Admittedly, the harm the antinatalist argument makes becomes a lot more logical to me when thinking about it not on a level of individual harm, but on a societal level.
Just to make one example (out of a great many potential arguments), I've come into being into a world where A) Going to college has become vital for getting a job that pays enough that you can live on, and B) There are so many people with college degrees that it has become virtually worthless. People keep multiplying, jobs don't, and Malthus' prophecies about overpopulation have turned from a question of too little food for too many people to a question of reduced access to it, and ending up in debt for the rest of their lives. And you want to ADD to that number? I think that, more than any other instance, the old saying about being "part of the problem" becomes apt. I can't pretend to be part of the solution, and quite frankly, anyone who isn't working on something like Samuel L. Jackson's evil scheme in Kingsman: The Secret Service propably isn't, but I know I have no intention of having children for this, and other reasons.
Show me a problem with society, and I can guarantee, you can find a very good reason to not subject any potential children to it and the other myriad of problems in the world. And I can probably help you along in that.
For the record, I do suffer from depression, but I've been medicated for over 2 years and the Luvox really seems to work, so I'm not exactly profoundly depressed, although I suppose years of Hell in grade school and a firm schooling in Schopenhauer and Bill Hicks and the like probably set my more cynical worldview into stone.
Just to make one example (out of a great many potential arguments), I've come into being into a world where A) Going to college has become vital for getting a job that pays enough that you can live on, and B) There are so many people with college degrees that it has become virtually worthless. People keep multiplying, jobs don't, and Malthus' prophecies about overpopulation have turned from a question of too little food for too many people to a question of reduced access to it, and ending up in debt for the rest of their lives. And you want to ADD to that number? I think that, more than any other instance, the old saying about being "part of the problem" becomes apt. I can't pretend to be part of the solution, and quite frankly, anyone who isn't working on something like Samuel L. Jackson's evil scheme in Kingsman: The Secret Service propably isn't, but I know I have no intention of having children for this, and other reasons.
Show me a problem with society, and I can guarantee, you can find a very good reason to not subject any potential children to it and the other myriad of problems in the world. And I can probably help you along in that.
For the record, I do suffer from depression, but I've been medicated for over 2 years and the Luvox really seems to work, so I'm not exactly profoundly depressed, although I suppose years of Hell in grade school and a firm schooling in Schopenhauer and Bill Hicks and the like probably set my more cynical worldview into stone.
Comparing the Universal Oneness of All Life to Yo Mama since 2010.
I was born with the gift of laughter and a sense the world is mad.
I was born with the gift of laughter and a sense the world is mad.