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Debunking the "God is Beyond Time" xtian response
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RE: Debunking the "God is Beyond Time" xtian response
I find it hard to define time other than a dimension which everything, locally, is traveling 1 second per second. But mix into this definition Relativity and that falls apart at the seams. I think time isn't a property of the Universe, kinda the same way gravity can be seen as not a property of matter, but bending spacetime, same way time can be seen as an effect of changing matter/energy states, and that the present moment is all that really exists in terms of time. This is a sidetrack, but I think time is just the change in matter/energy states going towards higher entropy; and that the "past" is when entropy was less, and the "future" is when entropy will become more. It's difficult to spin your head around these terms because our own language is drenched in time-dependent understanding, tenses, like we don't have timeless concepts the same way if we could not talk about vacuum because we wouldn't have experienced vacuum experientially, which gave the rise to the theory of an ether permeating all space - now we know better.

A god existing outside such constraints seems like it becomes even more nonsensical than what such a concept already is. With the above taken into account - outside of time - would it mean a god would be motionless? Experience no change? How could it even make any effect on the Universe if it is outside of time? With the strange implications time itself has, this becomes doubly strange to consider.

Only thing that I think would help would be reading about A-theory & B-theory of time.

A-theory of time is the classical definition, that time has past, present & future, whereas B-theory of time is that time is more of an effect of changing energy/matter states, than actual "flow of time". B-theory has no future to go to anymore than you can run faster than 1 second per second; it would be like trying to go North of the North Pole, likewise going to the past is going South of the South Pole. It is probably more like that time is a dimension than something we can travel temporally to. This takes into account relativity, where there's no universal present any more there's a single location, and that time is localized.
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool." - Richard P. Feynman
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RE: Debunking the "God is Beyond Time" xtian response - by Sal - April 18, 2017 at 8:26 am

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