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God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
(September 5, 2017 at 11:17 am)Drich Wrote:
(August 25, 2017 at 8:46 am)ignoramus Wrote: Theists, are you comfortable knowing that the thing you worship will never reveal himself to you?

And if He does?

Do you all really think that just because God did not reach out to you, He reaches out to no one?
Universe revolve around you much?

Your warm fuzzy feely-weelies do not count as a revelation, Drich.

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Quote:He will never help you when you are ill.
AIDS/Cancer No treatment on either...

False. AIDS patients have had access to retroviral drugs for years, plus other treatments to combat various aspects of that illness. If they can get those treatments, many of them lead more or less normal lives. Cancer patients, likewise, may have access to various treatments that manage the disease and/or its symptoms.

I think what you might have meant is "cure," and you'd be wrong there, too. At least one person has been cured of AIDS via bone marrow transplant from a genetically resistant donor, and cancer can be eliminated from people's bodies with chemo, radiation, cannabis oil, and probably other things (sometimes temporarily, other times for good).

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Quote:He will never be your wingman in battle.
I fought every school day of my life from 6th grade to 10th. I now see i would not have made it if not for HIm.

Why? Did he use his magic to help you beat up your school mates? What a dick.

Just make sure you don't fight anyone who has access to chariots of iron. Those things fuck Jehovah's shit right up.

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Quote:Never protect you from harm.
More times than I can count.


Maybe without those things I would think as you do. But at the same time you are without those things because you did not ever A/S/K for them either.

When you interpret every possible outcome as a sign from your god, it doesn't matter what you ask for. You'll always get an answer, and you'll always think it's the right one. It's like letting go of a balloon and telling it, "Please make it rain someday," and then the next time it rains you're like "MY SPELL WORKED!"

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Quote:That’s the problem with believing in the unfalsifiable: You could be wrong and you’d never find out.
To me, personally, that is religion's greatest marketing strength. It's their ultimate product which they are selling to you.
One which you yourself as a customer cannot even prove you haven't received!!!

Needing blind faith to believe in the absurd or extraordinary isn't just recommended, it's mandatory!
Thank God, God is not like that then Huh?

On one side of the fence people say what you do, and on the other people say the opposite.. the problem with a proud person is you do not see the fence you do not see the division God has placed between us. Then a proud person wrongly assumes that because God does not speak to me, he can not speak to anyone.
That make people who claim that he does, stupid or a liar...

That is a false dichotomy. They could also simply be mistaken.

Quote:2000 years of stupid liars... when in every single other case of false religion has never lasted longer than the society that it originates from..

Ummm...bullshit? Buddhism is about 2,500 years old and spread far beyond the society that created it. Plenty of other religions have managed to span culture and time, too. Does that mean those religions aren't false? How do you reconcile that with the fact that they flatly contradict yours?

Quote:OR... What if those who claim to have seen God simply have, and you and those like you are indeed simply on the outs?
Really? Like, really bro?

Ok...so how do you contend with the claims of people who are completely convinced (like, as convinced as you are) that they've seen gods you don't believe in? What if all those people were right, and you're simply on the outs? Furthermore, how do you contend with people like me? I used to see and hear god, along with a host of other supernatural shit (ghosts, demons, magical energy, etc.), and now I'm convinced that I was mistaken and that none of those things are real. What now?
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)

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