RE: The Quran stressing on the link between winds and clouds: rain
May 8, 2018 at 8:09 pm
(This post was last modified: May 8, 2018 at 8:22 pm by WinterHold.)
(May 8, 2018 at 7:27 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:(May 8, 2018 at 7:13 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: The cycle of rain is discussed with great detail in the Quran:
The clouds are linked directly with the winds; indicating their light weight and movement as God pleases with the direction of the winds.
This is a great find if you have no science books that tell you about the cycle of the rain.
Another verse that discussed the matter:
I fail to see how the indicated verses even hint at a knowledge of the water cycle. I think you're seeing what you want to see and ignoring the plain truth.
The bold part from the verse:
Quote:It is Allah who sends the winds, and they stir the clouds
Wind stirs clouds. The only mysterious part of the rainfall cycle is how the clouds get created, though there are hints in the same verse about the Condensation process:
Quote: ( 48 ) It is Allah who sends the winds, and they stir the clouds and spread them in the sky however He wills, and He makes them fragments so you see the rain emerge from within them.
I'm really really surprised that Mohammed concluded the Condensation of clouds; he literally said that rain is nothing but clouds becoming "fragments; i.e heavy; pieces". Isn't that what we recognize as gas to liquid ?
(May 8, 2018 at 7:55 am)Chad32 Wrote: People notice that the wind can push clouds, and that rain comes from clouds, and decided this is because of local god. praise be Allah/Jehovah/Zeus/Thor. Though maybe if they really knew how clouds form, and the cycle of evaporation and precipitation, then they might not claim a mystic source for it. Also this god's will, when it comes to rainfall, seems to also have a lot to do with geography. He must really love South America, famous for the amazon rainforest. Or Ireland, where Jackscepticeye claims it's always raining.
Attributing things to the wrong deity is a human trademark; I doubt that people in the past knew that "rain comes down when clouds become fragments".
(May 8, 2018 at 8:02 am)Brian37 Wrote:(May 8, 2018 at 7:13 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: The cycle of rain is discussed with great detail in the Quran:
The clouds are linked directly with the winds; indicating their light weight and movement as God pleases with the direction of the winds.
This is a great find if you have no science books that tell you about the cycle of the rain.
Another verse that discussed the matter:
Sorry Atlass, this doesn't prove in any modern sense the ancient world new anything close to what we know today about meteorology, weather or the atmosphere.
And I cannot repeat this enough. EVERY religion in the world, Christians and Jews and Buddhists and Hindus all have those in their ranks, whom try to get science to point to their club.
I didn't claim that Mohammed peace be upon him had the blueprints of Atlantis, he couldn't even read. That's why it's pretty strange for a nomad like him to speak about the rain cycle and the condensation of clouds.
They might have authentic passages in their books; I never claimed the opposite. Ever read the Hindu stories of flying palaces? Maybe there was a very advanced civilization in the past, and they received revelation from God in the past but they were destroyed along with their civilization.
(May 8, 2018 at 10:21 am)robvalue Wrote: So what's your point? You should try a science book, it'll blow your mind
Believe me I love them a lot.
Don't forget that I'm a software developer and I know my way around science. I wasn't a nerd; but I was okay.