(July 26, 2018 at 2:07 am)Mathilda Wrote:(July 25, 2018 at 12:40 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: So if car car wits working, that shows that it evolved and was not intelligently desighned. I think there is a flaw in your reasoning.
No one is arguing that an omniscient designer designed a car. Cars with inherent flaws in their design, like the Ford Pinto which blew up if you crashed into it from behind, were designed by people who were not omniscient. They learned from their mistakes and the design of the cars has evolved over the years wih the most successful designs being re-used and improved.
OK then, this isn't an argument against design then. So then I understand this new argument (at least I don't think this was the original intent) is that an omniscient designer, would not create an un-intended flaw. I agree. As defined, the designer knows that this will occur. However, there may be compromises, or other features which are not realized. The designer could have intended it to be this way for a reason. As an engineer, I wouldn't be too quick to judge what is good design or not. It always bugs me, when I have to change a program or a design, and I don't understand why it was done in the first place. Just because the designer could have built a car that can go 200 MPH, doesn't mean that it is suboptimal, that mine does not.
Also don't forget in a living organism, that they have to build themselves from a single cell up, undergoing various changes throughout the process, and adapting to changing issues in the environment as they live. You will often see human designers marvel and try to replicate the design that they see in nature. Sometimes they struggle with this. And often, they are just trying to produce the end result, not having to make it grow and unfold and reproduce.
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