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A new Confederacy
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RE: A new Confederacy
(January 13, 2021 at 9:50 am)Spongebob Wrote:
(January 13, 2021 at 9:37 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: The whole "Red State/Blue State" thing is meant to confuse non-USians about our actual political character, which is quite paisley.

Are you saying where you live all people don't have a red or blue hue?  Maybe I should get my eyes checked.

But to just play devil's advocate, why couldn't the obstacles be overcome?  Yes, most big cities lean Democrat and rural areas are heavily Republican.  If the overall number of voters lean one way or another, they can outvote the opposition.  So if some state held a referendum or ballot initiative to seek to part ways with the nation, it could pass.  We know that some people are already moving between states for political reasons, so this could be just another reason to do that.  If there were enough people pushing to do this and if enough were elected to congress, it could force a debate on the subject, potentially stalling other legislation.  What would it take for elected officials to seriously consider this if the alternative was violence?  Think about the European Union for a second.  I never expected Britain to leave the EU and even though the EU isn't the same thing as the US, the similarities are clear enough.

Understand I'm not advocating for this; just exploring what might happen given that our politics continue to split into a wider gap.

Since the courts have repeatedly declared the US to be a perpetual, insoluble union, a referendum seems like it would be a non-starter.

Debate on secession is unlikely ever to come to the floor.

The chief difference between the EU and the US is that EU members are allowed to leave, US states are not.

The US already fought one war over secession, I don’t imagine they’d balk at another.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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A new Confederacy - by Spongebob - January 12, 2021 at 12:59 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 12, 2021 at 1:02 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by Ranjr - January 12, 2021 at 1:06 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 12, 2021 at 5:49 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by Brian37 - January 12, 2021 at 6:21 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 12, 2021 at 6:33 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by Brian37 - January 12, 2021 at 6:36 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 12, 2021 at 6:38 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by Rev. Rye - January 12, 2021 at 8:40 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by Rhizomorph13 - January 12, 2021 at 8:42 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by GUBU - January 13, 2021 at 5:57 am
RE: A new Confederacy - by AFTT47 - January 12, 2021 at 8:48 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by Rhizomorph13 - January 12, 2021 at 9:40 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by Peebo-Thuhlu - January 12, 2021 at 10:47 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by Fireball - January 12, 2021 at 11:27 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 13, 2021 at 5:31 am
RE: A new Confederacy - by HappySkeptic - January 13, 2021 at 10:28 am
RE: A new Confederacy - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 13, 2021 at 9:37 am
RE: A new Confederacy - by Spongebob - January 13, 2021 at 9:50 am
RE: A new Confederacy - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 13, 2021 at 10:33 am
RE: A new Confederacy - by Mister Agenda - January 13, 2021 at 10:39 am
RE: A new Confederacy - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 13, 2021 at 10:49 am
RE: A new Confederacy - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 13, 2021 at 12:27 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by Spongebob - January 13, 2021 at 12:48 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 13, 2021 at 1:23 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by The Grand Nudger - January 13, 2021 at 11:48 am
RE: A new Confederacy - by The Grand Nudger - January 13, 2021 at 12:50 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by Spongebob - January 13, 2021 at 3:24 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 13, 2021 at 4:00 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by The Grand Nudger - January 13, 2021 at 1:50 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by Spongebob - January 13, 2021 at 3:42 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 13, 2021 at 6:21 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by Spongebob - January 13, 2021 at 6:46 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by onlinebiker - January 13, 2021 at 6:54 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 13, 2021 at 6:56 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 13, 2021 at 3:32 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by The Grand Nudger - January 13, 2021 at 5:31 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by Spongebob - January 13, 2021 at 6:03 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 13, 2021 at 6:53 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by The Grand Nudger - January 13, 2021 at 6:09 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by The Grand Nudger - January 13, 2021 at 6:26 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by The Grand Nudger - January 13, 2021 at 6:57 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by Rev. Rye - January 13, 2021 at 7:00 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by The Grand Nudger - January 13, 2021 at 7:03 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by Spongebob - January 13, 2021 at 7:05 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by The Grand Nudger - January 13, 2021 at 7:07 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by Rev. Rye - January 13, 2021 at 7:11 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by Ryantology - January 26, 2021 at 11:21 pm
RE: A new Confederacy - by The Grand Nudger - January 26, 2021 at 11:49 pm

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