A new Confederacy

[Spongebob]

Grant argued that the civil war was punishment for the mexican american war.  A war that, whatever misgivings Grant was expressing with that turn of phrase, many americans agreed with and saw as the fulfillment of their state identity.  You might enjoy this if you're looking to compare the events that lead up to the last confederacy with current events.

Thanks, I'll certainly read that.  I spend a good deal of time reading Presidential biographies (and other history) but I haven't yet gotten around to Polk although his term has been referenced many times in the one's I have read.  Based on my knowledge of pre and post-civil war history, I do not agree that the M-A war alone was the the cause of the civil war.  There was a split; not everyone wanted to pursue Texas but some wanted even more of Mexico thanks to the viral idea of manifest destiny.

If anything the CW was the culmination of the first 85 years of the country's history (if you start at 1776).  The slavery issue was ignored, compromised, kicked down the road and mishandled numerous times before it became critical with the expansion to the west and it was at its core about power.  The similarities to today are frightening, except as I pointed out, there is no single hot button issue, no "slavery", just this vague ideal of the white person living in "Freedom", whatever that means to them.  I'm a white guy in my 50's and I am nearly completely surrounded by them and even I don't understand what it is they want.  As far as I can tell, it's an ideology and not an actual policy.

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Wouldn't work in the US. Our troops have the right to disobey unlawful orders.

Even if our precious bodily fluids are in danger.

Perhaps, but somehow I still don't see that happening.  I assume that "right" extends to the police, yes?  How many times have you seen video of cops just go along with one or two that are beating an unarmed man to death because he wouldn't stop arguing with them?  Did you see the video of George Floyd?  It was one guy doing the damage while others stood around looking confused.  When they asked him if they should let him up, the cop barked at them and they backed off quickly.  Underlings don't disobey their commanders on a general basis; they are indoctrinated NOT to do that.