(March 15, 2011 at 3:33 pm)HeyItsZeus Wrote: Hmmmm.... we have a lot of people who think they are liberal.... then do not support Unions and want the government to give cash to corporations here in the U.S.... are you sure you're not a fake liberal yourself (and Adrian)? You are libertarians aren't you? A lot of libertarians I know tend to not be and are authoritative (they are delusional)What theVOID was saying is that the word "liberal" used to mean actions that went against the state / church rule. Citing wikipedia (Libertarianism#History):
Wikipedia Wrote:During the 18th century Age of Enlightenment, "liberal" ideas flourished in Europe and North America; they challenged the rule of monarchs and the church and emphasizing reason, science, individual liberty, free markets, consent of the governed and limited government.
As for the libertarians you know, it is a case of them calling themselves something they are not. A libertarian by definition cannot be authoritarian (I believe that is the word you meant). Yes, there are lots of different beliefs held within libertarians, as is true of atheists as well. However, like with atheists, there is one common belief:
"all advocate either the minimization or the elimination of the state, and the goal of maximizing individual liberty and freedom."
So if these people are authoritative, they simply cannot be libertarians, just as someone who believes in God cannot be an atheist.
