RE: The existence of God
September 4, 2022 at 12:46 pm
(This post was last modified: September 4, 2022 at 12:47 pm by R00tKiT.)
The comments in this thread reveal a grave misunderstanding of how arguments work in general. Fine-tuning points to a designer in so far as the designer hypothesis explains the data better than the naturalistic hypothesis. This is VERY DIFFERENT from saying that fine-tuning deductively entails God's existence, only ontological arguments attempt such a feat.
Now what an atheist can't argue against, is that life arising given God's existence is far more plausible than any competing hypothesis. Tinkering with the laws of physics and saying that they could've produced intelligent life under other circumstances isn't correct, because all the background knowledge used in the tinkering is inspired from the workings of this existing universe, in one way or another. So saying that, for example, the cosmological constant could've produced life if it had a different value, isn't an objection, because we're still borrowing the very concept of the cosmological constant and the related theory (GR and QM) from the existing universe.
Another common objection goes as follows : we need a universe that is designed by God, and a universe that isn't designed, so we can make the comparison, but this request already assumes that the universe arising without God is possible. question begging.
Imagine if an alien is presented with a computer chip and isn't convinced that intelligent life designed it, so he asks : show me a computer chip that isn't designed by humans, and one that is designed by humans, so that I can decide. Stupid, right?
Now what an atheist can't argue against, is that life arising given God's existence is far more plausible than any competing hypothesis. Tinkering with the laws of physics and saying that they could've produced intelligent life under other circumstances isn't correct, because all the background knowledge used in the tinkering is inspired from the workings of this existing universe, in one way or another. So saying that, for example, the cosmological constant could've produced life if it had a different value, isn't an objection, because we're still borrowing the very concept of the cosmological constant and the related theory (GR and QM) from the existing universe.
Another common objection goes as follows : we need a universe that is designed by God, and a universe that isn't designed, so we can make the comparison, but this request already assumes that the universe arising without God is possible. question begging.
Imagine if an alien is presented with a computer chip and isn't convinced that intelligent life designed it, so he asks : show me a computer chip that isn't designed by humans, and one that is designed by humans, so that I can decide. Stupid, right?
