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Social construct.
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RE: Social construct.
(December 22, 2022 at 1:04 am)Belacqua Wrote:
(December 21, 2022 at 12:20 pm)paulpablo Wrote: So what comprises a mountain exists it doesn't matter what we want to call it, but it's a mountain because people agreed that hills over a certain height are mountains and everyone mostly agreed.

If everyone changed their minds it would change what mountains and hills are.

I wonder if it would make sense to differentiate two different types of thing here.

First, social construct as definition of existing thing. So whether the mound is a hill or a mountain, whether Pluto is a planet or something else, depends on definition. The object would exist even if humans were completely unaware of them.

Second, another kind of social construct would be something that only exists because people believe in it. Such things have no physical existence you can point to. They are relationships among people, agreements to act in certain ways, etc. I'm thinking this category could include marriage, other contracts involving promises, etc. Perhaps government. The fact that these things are recorded on paper, or have buildings built to house them, doesn't mean they are concrete objects. The marriage record in city hall is not the marriage, the capitol building is not the government. 

In the case of this second type, if the social construct changed, the agreed-upon thing would cease to exist -- unlike the case of a mountain.

I've been reading through some threads on reddit in my spare time at work. At least I'm not the only one crazy enough to have had the thought everything might be a social construct because there's threads on there about it.

Even some seemingly knowledgeable people on there were taking the question seriously.
I don't know much about them but the concept is interesting.

I'm definitely not saying things physically disappear when humans don't define them.
It's more that it seems most things, even officially defined things, are defined just well enough to be socially agreed upon rather than having an objective reality.


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Social construct. - by paulpablo - December 19, 2022 at 10:18 pm
RE: Social construct. - by Jehanne - December 19, 2022 at 10:31 pm
RE: Social construct. - by Belacqua - December 19, 2022 at 11:04 pm
RE: Social construct. - by Jehanne - December 20, 2022 at 12:51 am
RE: Social construct. - by Belacqua - December 20, 2022 at 1:37 am
RE: Social construct. - by Jehanne - December 20, 2022 at 7:03 am
RE: Social construct. - by Belacqua - December 20, 2022 at 7:41 am
RE: Social construct. - by Jehanne - December 20, 2022 at 8:15 am
RE: Social construct. - by Belacqua - December 20, 2022 at 8:23 am
RE: Social construct. - by Anomalocaris - December 20, 2022 at 8:03 am
RE: Social construct. - by Jehanne - December 20, 2022 at 8:21 am
RE: Social construct. - by Anomalocaris - December 20, 2022 at 8:48 am
RE: Social construct. - by Jehanne - December 20, 2022 at 9:08 am
RE: Social construct. - by Anomalocaris - December 20, 2022 at 10:40 am
RE: Social construct. - by Jehanne - December 20, 2022 at 12:29 pm
RE: Social construct. - by paulpablo - December 20, 2022 at 10:27 am
RE: Social construct. - by Jehanne - December 20, 2022 at 10:37 am
RE: Social construct. - by Belacqua - December 19, 2022 at 10:46 pm
RE: Social construct. - by Belacqua - December 19, 2022 at 11:01 pm
RE: Social construct. - by Thumpalumpacus - December 20, 2022 at 1:28 am
RE: Social construct. - by Anomalocaris - December 20, 2022 at 2:13 am
RE: Social construct. - by Belacqua - December 20, 2022 at 3:57 am
RE: Social construct. - by arewethereyet - December 20, 2022 at 8:33 am
RE: Social construct. - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2022 at 8:43 am
RE: Social construct. - by paulpablo - December 20, 2022 at 4:44 pm
RE: Social construct. - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2022 at 9:19 am
RE: Social construct. - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2022 at 10:56 am
RE: Social construct. - by LinuxGal - January 1, 2023 at 10:19 am
RE: Social construct. - by Anomalocaris - December 20, 2022 at 12:48 pm
RE: Social construct. - by Jehanne - December 20, 2022 at 2:23 pm
RE: Social construct. - by LinuxGal - December 20, 2022 at 2:58 pm
RE: Social construct. - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2022 at 2:57 pm
RE: Social construct. - by Anomalocaris - December 20, 2022 at 4:30 pm
RE: Social construct. - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2022 at 4:42 pm
RE: Social construct. - by Anomalocaris - December 20, 2022 at 4:50 pm
RE: Social construct. - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2022 at 4:54 pm
RE: Social construct. - by Anomalocaris - December 20, 2022 at 5:07 pm
RE: Social construct. - by paulpablo - December 20, 2022 at 5:21 pm
RE: Social construct. - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2022 at 5:09 pm
RE: Social construct. - by Anomalocaris - December 20, 2022 at 5:41 pm
RE: Social construct. - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2022 at 5:23 pm
RE: Social construct. - by paulpablo - December 20, 2022 at 5:36 pm
RE: Social construct. - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2022 at 5:53 pm
RE: Social construct. - by Anomalocaris - December 20, 2022 at 7:04 pm
RE: Social construct. - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2022 at 7:07 pm
RE: Social construct. - by Objectivist - December 20, 2022 at 11:00 pm
RE: Social construct. - by Anomalocaris - December 21, 2022 at 9:20 am
RE: Social construct. - by Objectivist - December 21, 2022 at 11:37 am
RE: Social construct. - by Anomalocaris - December 21, 2022 at 12:17 pm
RE: Social construct. - by paulpablo - December 21, 2022 at 12:20 pm
RE: Social construct. - by Belacqua - December 21, 2022 at 7:43 pm
RE: Social construct. - by Belacqua - December 22, 2022 at 1:04 am
RE: Social construct. - by paulpablo - December 22, 2022 at 1:23 am
RE: Social construct. - by Belacqua - December 22, 2022 at 3:40 am
RE: Social construct. - by The Grand Nudger - December 21, 2022 at 7:37 am
RE: Social construct. - by paulpablo - December 21, 2022 at 11:46 am
RE: Social construct. - by The Grand Nudger - December 21, 2022 at 1:21 pm
RE: Social construct. - by paulpablo - December 21, 2022 at 2:23 pm
RE: Social construct. - by The Grand Nudger - December 21, 2022 at 2:38 pm
RE: Social construct. - by paulpablo - December 21, 2022 at 3:27 pm
RE: Social construct. - by The Grand Nudger - December 21, 2022 at 3:31 pm
RE: Social construct. - by The Grand Nudger - December 21, 2022 at 7:56 pm
RE: Social construct. - by Jehanne - December 21, 2022 at 10:50 pm
RE: Social construct. - by The Grand Nudger - December 22, 2022 at 9:17 am
RE: Social construct. - by Anomalocaris - December 22, 2022 at 9:41 am

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