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Fundies Will Be Shitting Bricks
RE: Fundies Will Be Shitting Bricks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis

Some process in chemical evolution must account for the origin of homochirality, i.e. all building blocks in living organisms having the same "handedness" (amino acids being left-handed, nucleic acid sugars (ribose and deoxyribose) being right-handed, and chiral phosphoglycerides). Chiral molecules can be synthesized, but in the absence of a chiral source or a chiral catalyst, they are formed in a 50/50 mixture of both enantiomers. This is called a racemic mixture. Clark has suggested that homochirality may have started in space, as the studies of the amino acids on the Murchison meteorite showed L-alanine to be more than twice as frequent as its D form, and L-glutamic acid was more than 3 times prevalent than its D counterpart. It is suggested that polarised light has the power to destroy one enantiomer within the proto-planetary disk. Noyes[64] showed that beta decay caused the breakdown of D-leucine, in a racemic mixture, and that the presence of 14C, present in larger amounts in organic chemicals in the early Earth environment, could have been the cause. Robert M. Hazen reports upon experiments conducted in which various chiral crystal surfaces act as sites for possible concentration and assembly of chiral monomer units into macromolecules.[65] Once established, chirality would be selected for.[66] Work with organic compounds found on meteorites tends to suggest that chirality is a characteristic of abiogenic synthesis, as amino acids show a left-handed bias, whereas sugars show a predominantly right-handed bias.[67]

Furthermore, your claim that Fox's experiments used temperature conditions not found on Earth is, to put it rather bluntly, bullshit. Fox heated his apparatus to around 180 C. There are thermophiles deep within the Earth (about 3 km down) and in the vicinity of black smokers and other hydrothermal vents that can survive these temperatures.

You also said "Never said the amino acids were not found in nature, I said their pure forms were not, the impure forms would not form peptides."

Using this logic, we should not even exist. If impure forms cannot form peptides, then that means that only pure forms can exist in the human body. Now, unless you are arguing that human beings don't exist in nature...

"I didn’t see your historical source saying servants in Bible times were treated the same as American slaves."

No, according to historic documents from the time, slaves were treated much worse. Yet Jesus knew about it and did nothing to discourage it, and in fact, left instructions on how they should be treated.

There is no hiostorical evidence that anything in the Book of Exodus ever happened.

And Statler, that you apparently believe that there is no basis for the moral conviction that slavery is wrong is all I need to know about you. So we have here a right wing evangelical Christian who believes in magic old men creating a universe POOF 10,000 years ago who also believes that slavery is morally justified. Wonders never cease to amaze.
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"We Jews understand that the world wasn't created in 7 days, and that's because we know what we are good at. And what we are really good at is bullshit".
-Lewis Black
'The difference between a Miracle and a Fact is exactly the difference between a mermaid and seal. It could not be expressed better.'
-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens

"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations".

- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)

"In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! "

- Dr. Donald Prothero
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Fundies Will Be Shitting Bricks - by Minimalist - April 13, 2011 at 1:59 pm
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