RE: More Ron Bashing
February 1, 2012 at 6:06 pm
(This post was last modified: February 1, 2012 at 6:07 pm by paintpooper.)
(February 1, 2012 at 4:56 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: The question wasnt WHO could change things in the presidency, but HOW could they change it.
All Ron could be able to do to remove the dept of education was to incourage a bill to be introduced to remove it. It will then have to go through all of the comittees, House of reps, then the Senate and their committees and then, and only then, would he be able to sign the bill. Ron Paul would only have the powers of Veto and approval, and even his veto power can be circumvented by another pass through by congress and the senate.
Now, Ron Paul says he will stop the wars. But only the houses have the ability to declare and stop wars, not the president. So now Paul can pull some weight because he is commander in cheif of the armed forces (if he is president), but he CANNOT step up as a single leader and declare that the war against terror is over. congress and the Senate would bypass him and put him in his place, and even possibly take him up in front of the judicial branch to be investigated for trying to go beyond his executive powers.
this means Ron Paul could not stop the wars unless he has a MAJOR backing of the houses.
This also means that all of his campaign promises to shut down this dept or that would have to have a MAJOR backing of the houses as well, and I can tell you that he would not have enough support to close ANY of those depts.
So, in other words, voting in Ron Paul will not change SQUAT.
That is why I laugh about Ron Paul. He makes big claims that he will not be able to accomplish, and most of his followers do not understand the basics of our 3 tiered government.
The most he could do is pull our forces out of Libya, and that would be political suicide with our allies in Europe who depend on Libya for much of their oil.
Voting Ron Paul is a waste of a vote.
Political suicide it must be then. Like I said what options do we have.
IMO voting for Romney or Obama is a waste of a vote, if our votes really even mean anything anyways....
Well I'm not sure about the congress thing and the wars, as these wars we are currently in were never actually declared by the house or senate, so there is no official declaration of wars. He may be able to do something about that.
Obama and Hiliary currently are war mongers, Paul could at least fight the UN and NATO as the US has major power in those. As of now Obama and Hiliary are in support of these wars, Paul would not be, so it would change the political discourse of these foreign policy issues. He would hopefully not surround himself in his cabinet with neo cons and neo liberals.
Where is the anti-war left? They still support these "leftist" HA. They are brainwashed into thinking their liberal leaders know what is best for them.
Paul could change the populations minds though.. .perhaps. That is what I am hoping for. Then the constituents of the senate and house members would get public feedback on the issues Paul brings up, and hopefully can sway them. And if not, then revolution time. Because if the people go and tell the "representatives" what they want, and they don't listen, thats is a very clear message that these people don't act on the people's behalf.
All things will end in a revolution if the current means of doing business can not support the will of the people. We don't have a 10% congress approval rating for nothing.