(January 19, 2016 at 5:06 am)Sheed1980 Wrote:(January 19, 2016 at 4:16 am)Irrational Wrote: So whatever you want to do is not predetermined is what you're saying? If so, then it must be random. If not, then you''re saying they're predetermined. Either way, no absolute control for one's actions. Therefore, judgement from Allah to the fires of Jouhannam would be too fucking harsh, don't you think?
Well of course Allah knows what we will do, and of course we sin. But Allah tells us that He forgives again and again. So when we sin we repent to Allah and this shows that we fear our Lord because we know He punishes, but also shows that we know we have a Lord that is Most Merciful and forgives sins. I'm not sure if you know the Islamic version of the Adam and Eve story. But til this day, because of his pride and arrogance, Satan has not repented to Allah and sought His forgiveness for disobeying Him. So if we don't seek Allah's forgiveness when we do wrong we can't just expect Him to forgive us. We have to want it for ourselves
See if you can spot the pattern.
"Well of course Jesus knows what we will do, and of course we sin"
"Well of course Yahweh knows what we will do, and of course we sin"
"Well of course Karma happens because we did something wrong in a prior life"
See the problem? Every religion makes up superstitious reasons as to why people do bad things.
I would suggest to you to consider there is no magic to life, nor is there a magic man in the sky pulling our strings. I would ask you to consider that WE are the ones doing it and that our behaviors, both good and bad are part of our evolution, not old myths.
The problem with "sin" while people promote it as a warning not to do bad things, which sounds nice on paper, in reality it is a very horrible concept. The books of Abraham assume your guilt at birth, even before you have made any mistakes. That basically teaches you to loath yourself as a default position even before you have made any mistakes.
Now, the real reason we try to avoid hurting others is evolutionary, not magical. We evolved with empathy so we can say without superstitious answers, "I feel bad when others do this to me, so I will avoid doing it to others". It allows us not only to avoid harm to ourselves, but allows us to seek cooperation with others.
I know you like the idea of a god existing, so do Christians and Jews, but those ancient religions do not reflect our modern understanding of our biological reality.