(June 4, 2012 at 9:03 am)elunico13 Wrote: Because we are the same species we now all have the same brain?
We don't have the exact same brains, but they are very similar.
(June 4, 2012 at 9:03 am)elunico13 Wrote: Don't think so... If laws of logic depended on each other's brain then we could each have our own laws of logic.
You have not demonstrated that our brains are so different that we should expect that to be the case.
(June 4, 2012 at 9:03 am)elunico13 Wrote: They wouldn't be laws would they? They wouldn't be universal. They exist outside of our brains. AND we use laws of logic to CORRECT our ways of thinking.
What we call 'laws' are descriptions of ways in which the universe is very consistent.
(June 4, 2012 at 9:03 am)elunico13 Wrote: Could the universe have existed and not existed at the same time and in the same way before humans came along???
I don't see how. Why do you ask?
(June 4, 2012 at 9:03 am)elunico13 Wrote: Well if we all thought like you I could just say God is true and "that's how things are".
Except that pointing at nothing and saying 'that's how things are' is very different from pointing at many things and noting they seem to follow a rule, and not being able to find any exceptions to those rules, being willing to change your mind if any exceptions are ever found, and THEN saying 'that's how things are'.
(June 4, 2012 at 9:03 am)elunico13 Wrote: You're sidestepping the question.
No he isn't. At all.
(June 4, 2012 at 9:03 am)elunico13 Wrote: Laws aren't our description of the world. Many people describe the world in different ways. i.e. evolutionists and creationists.
Laws are a particular kind of description of our world.
(June 4, 2012 at 9:03 am)elunico13 Wrote: Laws of logic often CORRECT our ways of thinking. Allow logic to do its work for you LOL!
How about you demonstrate how the 'laws of logic' apply in this case? Perhaps you could form a syllogism, or point out a fallacy one of us is committing.
(June 4, 2012 at 9:03 am)elunico13 Wrote: So I logically explained they're not personal or they wouldn't be universal. So how do you account for them in an evolutionistic view?
Evolution selects for organisms well-adapted to their environment. An organism that depends on thinking as its main tool of survival but can't manage simple logic would be at a disadvantage in the struggle to survive.
(June 4, 2012 at 9:03 am)elunico13 Wrote: Laws of logic not universal anymore? Human creations!?!?
If that's the case then you should be able to logically answer this simple question.
Could the universe have existed and not existed at the same time and in the same way before humans came along???
No. What do you think that proves?
