RE: Why ontological arguments are illogical
August 14, 2012 at 6:14 am
(This post was last modified: August 14, 2012 at 6:30 am by pgrimes15.)
(August 2, 2012 at 7:47 pm)liam Wrote: The argument, for those who dont know it, is effectively:
God is the most perfect thing ever
A thing is more perfect if it is real
Therefore God is real
Surely the most "perfect thing ever" cannot create something that is not perfect. If it did then we can conceive of a more perfect being that only creates perfect things, and that being, by definition, then becomes the "most perfect thing ever".
Humanity, by the dogma of many religions, (in particular Xtian theology) is far from perfect, so cannot have been made by the "most perfect thing".
A defense that God made perfect people who then went bad on their own only shifts the argument. A "perfect" creator would not make beings that even had the potential to turn bad.
Regards
Grimesy
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. — Edward Gibbon
