RE: Sign in Quran
April 10, 2013 at 11:44 pm
(This post was last modified: April 11, 2013 at 12:14 am by remy.)
(April 10, 2013 at 8:07 am)paulpablo Wrote:Quote:Yes I might have said quran describes things based on 7th century understanding, they understand the constricted feeling, they know what is sky but they wouldn't understand that it's the sign of losing ability to inhale more oxygen because they wouldn't know what oxygen is. That's what I mean that it has to be revealed based on the understandable terms.
Well I guess the question is could muhammad have had knowledge of mountains and the effects of climbing high? The answer is definitely yes he could have because there are mountains in the middle east. Therefore the verse isn't a clear miracle it just creates the question, who told muhammad that climbing high creates breathlessness, was it from the knowledge of people who live in mountainous regions and common knowledge of people in general or from a supernatural being?
Okay, I agreed with you then. Thanks for the opinion. =) If I still remember, I never said anything about miracle throughout my writing here. Only once, I believe.
(April 10, 2013 at 8:07 am)paulpablo Wrote:Quote: Air moves from areas of higher pressure to lower pressure. As your diaphragm (the muscle that separates your chest cavity from your abdominal cavity) moves downward, the size of your chest cavity increases. This decreases the pressure in your chest and air flows in. When the diaphragm is up, it puts pressure on the chest cavity and the pressure in the lungs is greater than outside the lungs.
The size of the chest cavity actually increases rather then becomes closed and constricted.
Emm, actually what you just quote is just about the process of breathing. Not at all about what happens as we climb higher.
http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/health-t...ppens.html
(April 10, 2013 at 8:07 am)paulpablo Wrote: And you say why does it say water and not say blood or soil?The verses you quoted (92:6, 15:28, and 15:26), was only much related to the creation of Man.
Question that I want to raise is, why water? Why the word 'water' is being used. And 21:30 said, made from water 'every living' being.
So, what do you think about what science said about water and life.
(April 10, 2013 at 9:07 am)Zen Badger Wrote: Completely meaningless statement, I thought your god was omnipotetent, so therfore he would have had no problem putting something in the quaran that lead men to make major discoveries.
Even something as simple as penicillin being found in mould.
But nothing, nothing that is apart from the 7th century rantings of an manipulative paedophile.
Simply because quran was not a book of science. else, it would become irrelevant. 'Penicillin'? do you think they (7th century) know what it is. Even the term I believe is coined in the last century.
Or even if they knew what penicillin is, the latter people will just seen it as something that has just been discovered at that time or even ridicule it as a 'science' book. That's why God picked the furthest knowledge could available to man, which is the creation of life, or even big bang.
[He] who created death and life to test you [as to] which of you is best in deed - and He is the Exalted in Might, the Forgiving.