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Thoughts on the Woolwich killing
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing
(June 3, 2013 at 9:08 am)ideologue08 Wrote: I don't care about the cost, I think it's morally wrong to pay for the upkeep of a murderer.



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Cant you see how you contradict yourself within one sentence?


Quote:You might also want the death penalty because you want closure? Don't you want the State to get rid of a human being who ended your own family or friends? Or would you rather see them playing basketball in prison?

Oh how obvious, an appeal to emotion.

Well. I have nothing to say in a legal matter. And that it the entire point of a criminal justice system. It is not supposed to please the lust for revenge of wronged individuals. A court is supposed to be a fair and unbiased institution and not a place that legitemises revenge.

Quote: I don't really see the point of debating this issue because we're as dogmatic as each other,

Where am I being dogmatic???

Quote: but just to summarize the main reasons I want to see the death penalty:
1) It guarantees that the murderer doesn't kill again.

So can a prison

Quote:2) It provides the State a way out of using taxpayer funds to pay for the upkeep of murderers which I believe isn't moral.

you priviously posted:

Quote:I don't care about the cost

Where you also managed to contradict yourself in the same sentence.

Anyway, I previously pointed out than an execution is more expensive than a life sentence.

Quote:3) It helps bring closure to grieving family and friends.

A prison sentence can certainly also be a closure.
Other than that, a court is not here to bring closure, it is here to bring fair and just judgements.

Quote:4) It is, in my humble opinion, the only punishment that fits the crime.

Fine, your opinion.
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Messages In This Thread
Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Ben Davis - May 23, 2013 at 8:18 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by KichigaiNeko - May 23, 2013 at 8:20 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Ben Davis - May 23, 2013 at 11:14 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - May 23, 2013 at 11:47 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by downbeatplumb - May 23, 2013 at 11:51 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - May 23, 2013 at 11:57 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by downbeatplumb - May 23, 2013 at 12:01 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - May 23, 2013 at 12:07 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by downbeatplumb - May 23, 2013 at 12:32 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - May 23, 2013 at 12:35 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Sal - May 23, 2013 at 11:59 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - May 23, 2013 at 12:04 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Sal - May 23, 2013 at 12:11 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - May 23, 2013 at 12:18 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Sal - May 23, 2013 at 12:27 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Sal - May 23, 2013 at 8:38 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by LastPoet - May 23, 2013 at 12:07 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Minimalist - May 23, 2013 at 12:48 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - May 23, 2013 at 12:58 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - May 23, 2013 at 2:41 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - May 23, 2013 at 3:13 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Godschild - May 24, 2013 at 5:19 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - May 24, 2013 at 5:24 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Godschild - May 25, 2013 at 1:54 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Godschild - May 23, 2013 at 3:00 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - May 23, 2013 at 3:37 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - May 23, 2013 at 3:55 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Sal - May 23, 2013 at 4:04 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - May 23, 2013 at 4:07 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Cato - May 23, 2013 at 4:26 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - May 23, 2013 at 4:40 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Cato - May 24, 2013 at 6:35 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - May 25, 2013 at 7:26 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by cratehorus - May 25, 2013 at 7:33 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Godschild - May 28, 2013 at 2:27 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - May 24, 2013 at 5:42 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Dragonetti - May 25, 2013 at 2:14 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Dragonetti - May 25, 2013 at 4:39 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Dragonetti - May 25, 2013 at 7:29 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - May 25, 2013 at 7:36 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by cratehorus - May 26, 2013 at 1:03 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Dragonetti - May 25, 2013 at 7:55 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - May 25, 2013 at 8:13 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Dragonetti - May 25, 2013 at 9:00 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - May 25, 2013 at 9:54 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Dragonetti - May 25, 2013 at 10:14 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - May 25, 2013 at 6:33 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Dragonetti - May 25, 2013 at 7:05 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - May 25, 2013 at 7:09 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Napoléon - May 25, 2013 at 11:26 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Gilgamesh - May 25, 2013 at 10:21 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Dragonetti - May 25, 2013 at 10:39 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - May 26, 2013 at 6:39 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by cratehorus - June 2, 2013 at 12:21 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Napoléon - May 26, 2013 at 11:09 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - May 26, 2013 at 11:25 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Dragonetti - May 26, 2013 at 11:31 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - May 26, 2013 at 11:38 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Napoléon - May 27, 2013 at 7:58 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Gilgamesh - May 27, 2013 at 1:35 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Gilgamesh - May 26, 2013 at 2:02 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - May 25, 2013 at 12:15 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Napoléon - May 26, 2013 at 11:31 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Dragonetti - May 26, 2013 at 11:54 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - May 26, 2013 at 11:58 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Dragonetti - May 26, 2013 at 12:03 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - May 26, 2013 at 12:08 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Tiberius - May 26, 2013 at 12:32 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by downbeatplumb - May 27, 2013 at 10:54 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Tiberius - May 27, 2013 at 7:02 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by cratehorus - May 28, 2013 at 3:46 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Minimalist - May 27, 2013 at 7:55 pm
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Minimalist - May 28, 2013 at 2:40 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Godschild - May 28, 2013 at 3:23 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Aractus - May 30, 2013 at 8:45 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by NoraBrimstone - May 30, 2013 at 11:12 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Ben Davis - May 30, 2013 at 11:57 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Ben Davis - May 31, 2013 at 6:34 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Cato - May 31, 2013 at 12:43 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Dragonetti - May 31, 2013 at 12:45 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Godschild - May 31, 2013 at 1:58 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - June 3, 2013 at 7:28 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Ben Davis - June 3, 2013 at 11:32 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by fr0d0 - June 2, 2013 at 1:52 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by fr0d0 - June 2, 2013 at 5:54 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Ben Davis - June 3, 2013 at 5:35 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - June 3, 2013 at 8:04 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - June 3, 2013 at 7:46 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by KichigaiNeko - June 3, 2013 at 5:56 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by KichigaiNeko - June 3, 2013 at 7:31 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - June 3, 2013 at 8:28 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - June 3, 2013 at 8:35 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - June 3, 2013 at 8:41 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - June 3, 2013 at 8:49 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - June 3, 2013 at 9:08 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by Something completely different - June 3, 2013 at 9:20 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - June 3, 2013 at 9:26 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - June 3, 2013 at 9:33 am
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by ideologue08 - June 3, 2013 at 9:30 am
Re: RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by fr0d0 - June 3, 2013 at 12:27 pm
Re: RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing - by fr0d0 - June 3, 2013 at 12:37 pm

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