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Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect
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RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect
(November 29, 2009 at 12:03 pm)theVOID Wrote: You misunderstood me.

Absolute perfection is not subjective by definition, the problem is that i doubt very much that such a thing could exist in any real sense outside of purely conceptual thought, so i for now reject the notion of Absolute perfection in favor of subjective interpretations.

It gets a little fuzzy in where to draw the line though, something can be perfect in a specific function, but when you are talking about something so absolutely perfect that there is no need for anything else at all then you need to account for all possible functions this perfection would have to have to be perfect, but you couldn't do it because of the contradictory claims that you would encounter.
I don't think I misunderstood, only that we use different definitions for perfection and absolute.

My 'absolute' is as absolute as can be, i.e. free from any context, not subject to any condition.
When something is perfect in a specific function, it's perfection is related to the specific and by definition not absolute.

You choose to reject the existence of the absolute. I am open to the possibility that the absolute might exist but see no way around the problem that our human capacities are anything but absolute. How can the not-absolute assess absoluteness? Also imo you cannot reason away the absolute completely.
"I'm like a rabbit suddenly trapped, in the blinding headlights of vacuous crap" - Tim Minchin in "Storm"
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0
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RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by fr0d0 - November 19, 2009 at 3:00 pm
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by Violet - November 19, 2009 at 4:02 pm
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by Violet - November 20, 2009 at 6:19 pm
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by fr0d0 - November 19, 2009 at 6:28 pm
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by fr0d0 - November 20, 2009 at 6:37 pm
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by Violet - November 20, 2009 at 6:29 pm
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by Darwinian - November 20, 2009 at 6:30 pm
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by Violet - November 20, 2009 at 6:32 pm
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by Darwinian - November 20, 2009 at 6:41 pm
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by Violet - November 20, 2009 at 6:41 pm
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by fr0d0 - November 20, 2009 at 6:46 pm
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by Violet - November 20, 2009 at 6:50 pm
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by fr0d0 - November 20, 2009 at 7:08 pm
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by fr0d0 - November 21, 2009 at 5:43 pm
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by fr0d0 - November 21, 2009 at 6:05 pm
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by fr0d0 - November 23, 2009 at 5:09 pm
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by Violet - November 23, 2009 at 5:12 pm
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by Tiberius - November 23, 2009 at 7:28 pm
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by fr0d0 - November 24, 2009 at 5:01 am
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by Violet - November 24, 2009 at 5:03 am
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by Amphora - November 26, 2009 at 2:57 am
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by fr0d0 - November 28, 2009 at 12:32 pm
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by fr0d0 - November 28, 2009 at 12:53 pm
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by fr0d0 - November 28, 2009 at 3:43 pm
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by fr0d0 - November 28, 2009 at 7:25 pm
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by fr0d0 - November 29, 2009 at 8:14 am
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by fr0d0 - November 29, 2009 at 9:18 am
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by theVOID - November 29, 2009 at 11:03 am
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by theVOID - November 29, 2009 at 11:31 am
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by theVOID - November 29, 2009 at 12:03 pm
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by Purple Rabbit - November 29, 2009 at 12:13 pm
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by theVOID - November 29, 2009 at 12:20 pm
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by theVOID - November 29, 2009 at 12:32 pm
RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect - by theVOID - November 29, 2009 at 12:25 pm

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