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Totally NOT a debate about the veracity of the gospels
RE: Totally NOT a debate about the veracity of the gospels
(March 12, 2014 at 11:22 am)ronedee Wrote: For some perhaps... But I try to listen to God. Its what is "right"...not what someone tells you is right.
Are you truly saying that your impression as to what is right is not colored by anyone? As a Catholic, not even the pope? Not even the things you hear on the "news" or in media?
(March 12, 2014 at 11:22 am)ronedee Wrote: So, if you do whats "right"... you know you are doing God's will. Pretty simple! eh?

I don't stumble on words in a book. Especially if men wrote them. I do discern the bible. And I believe the Gospel as "true". At least the messages of what Jesus says is "right". I don't believe a mear man could've made that up!
So the truth of the Gospels, for you, has nothing to do with the veracity of the stories? What about the vastly different stories about Jesus' birth in the Gospels. How do you reconcile the VERY different Jesus protrayed in the crucifixion stories in Luke and Mark?
(March 12, 2014 at 11:22 am)ronedee Wrote: There are just too many truths, and ironies to throw my Bible in the fiction section of my library!
Here is my over-arching point: There are details that are different. Details like whether Jesus was crucified in the third hour (Mark 15:25) or the sixth hour (John 19:14-15) that don't add anything to the interpretation of the story, as some apologists will say. They are just contradictions. When there are this many factual contradictions (see Esquilax's link), at what point does the human-ness of this work call the whole thing into question?
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great

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RE: Totally NOT a debate about the veracity of the gospels - by SteelCurtain - March 12, 2014 at 11:42 am

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