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Totally NOT a debate about the veracity of the gospels
RE: Totally NOT a debate about the veracity of the gospels
(March 12, 2014 at 2:23 pm)professor Wrote: Deidre asked a question about the Islamic (the name means "Submission") book.
Without a doubt it is inspired. But just not by the one who inspired the Bible.

Another thing, the Inquisition was perpetrated by totalitarians calling themselves "Christians" while murdering real Christians.
You see, when the devil realized he couldn't kill Christianity by persecution- he undermined it by installing false Christianity in his government at the time.
That situation began to be reversed when the printing press was applied to the Bible and the people were able to by pass the evil priesthood by actually reading the text themselves.
Do you really think that is a valid point? The people perpetrating the Inquisition and the Crusades weren't real Christians? What is a 'real Christian,' because if it is a person who believes what most people believe about the Bible today, then you're in for a big surprise. Awfully convenient how you can scrub off millenia of bigotry, misogyny, and racism just by saying those weren't real Christians. The Americans perpetrating racism and segregation in the South 50 years ago weren't real Christians either, were they? And todays homophobic bigots won't be real Christians in 30 years either, will they?

(March 12, 2014 at 2:23 pm)professor Wrote: I also wonder which place devoid of Christian influence you guys would prefer to live?
How about Saudi Arabia or any other Muslim country?
How about the atheistic nation of China?
Oh yeah, would you like to try India?
People tend to vote with their feet.
Why is that?
You are kidding me with this, right? Your implied correlation of the success of this country because of it's "Christianity" is baseless. There is, however, a correlation between the secularity of a country, and it's STEM scores in relation to other countries. See Sweden and Japan, for example.
There are other factors that guide people's "feet," anyhow. Given that it costs money for people to up and leave the country they were born in, given that people are reluctant to leave all the people in their support network, given that moving to a new country often requires one to learn a new language, new customs, get a new job, buy a new house. I don't choose to stay in America because I dislike other countries, I choose to stay here because everything I know is here. ETA: And 'Murica is, for the most part, awesome despite the religotards here.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great

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RE: Totally NOT a debate about the veracity of the gospels - by SteelCurtain - March 12, 2014 at 3:37 pm

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