(March 23, 2014 at 3:51 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:(March 23, 2014 at 3:36 pm)tor Wrote: How do you know it's not illusory?
The how would be a trivial question. The important question would be do we know. If God exists, it's not farfetch that he can give metaphysical knowledge of the self, praise, value, morality, free-will etc. Exactly how he does so doesn't need to be known. The important question would be if we do know this to be true.
That question is not really up to debate. It's more something you have to ask yourself.
Majority of humans seem to believe this as knowledge, and don't see it as questionable.
And in a perfect world, we could build a bubble around the planet to protect us from asteroid strikes.
The "how" is of prime importance: otherwise you're just making spurious claims about what is possible, and ignoring probability entirely.
The presupposition <God exists>
is required for any of the above premises to make sense, and is not simply "granted" as theists seem to believe and argue.
Belief, no matter how strongly held, is not a measure of validity. One could make any number of equally unsupported claims, and build on them with spurious conjecture, only to have them rejected as "ridiculous" by Christians.
The only reason the same lack of evidence claims seem to hold up to to Christians is indoctrination, the historical precedent of their beliefs being unquestionably held.
