(May 20, 2014 at 12:28 pm)Heywood Wrote: Today a friend whom I argue politics with lamented that he didn't care if humans destroyed the earth but that I should since I have children.
So that got me wondering. If future generations have a right to a clean and livable earth why don't they have a right to exist?
No one is saying they don't have a right to exist. But they don't have the right to exist at the expense of someone else.
(May 20, 2014 at 12:28 pm)Heywood Wrote: Essentially a conclusion of the pro abortion movement is that future people don't have a right to exist.
Wow, so much wrong with that. We are pro choice, not pro-abortion. I think it would be fantastic if abortion wasn't a thing. But if it comes down to a choice between the potential of a fertilized egg becoming a person and the mothers body rights, i'm going to choice body rights every time.
(May 20, 2014 at 12:28 pm)Heywood Wrote: The right of existence only comes into being after one is born. Well if they don't have a right to exist then they certainly don't have a right to a clean and livable earth.
The funny thing with pro-life theists like you, is that you actually give special rights to foetuses. You actually give them more rights than an actual person.
If my kidneys were failing and the only way I could survive was to kidnap you, tie you up, and hook myself up to you to use your kidneys. Would that be OK? No, it wouldn't, assuming you don't want me to.
But when a foetus is relying solely on the body of its mother to survive (in the exact same way that I would survive from your body) its fine to totally disregard here choice and say 'you're having that baby whether you like it or not'. Can't you see? You're giving foetuses more rights than an actual person.
(May 20, 2014 at 12:28 pm)Heywood Wrote: How does someone who is pro abortion justify fighting against global warming? Do not the rights and needs of the people today supersede the rights and need of future people?
This sentence is just ridiculous. You are talking about pro-choicers as though we don't want the human race to survive as a species.
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'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech