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Abortion and Global warming
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RE: Abortion and Global warming
(May 20, 2014 at 10:55 pm)Heywood Wrote: Maybe I shouldn't....but I do.

That didn't answer why you would value the baby over the zygote. My point is that you shouldn't, however. If you see both of them as 'future people' you should have an impossible choice and be unable to choose. Not that that was an option.

(May 20, 2014 at 10:55 pm)Heywood Wrote: Let me ask you a hypothetical. Suppose two mothers and two nursing babies are on a plane. The plane crashes. One mother's baby is killed and one baby's mother is killed. It will be one month before the surviving woman and baby are rescued. There is plenty of food for the woman but it is none of it is suitable for the baby.

During that month does the surviving woman have a moral obligation to nurse the surviving baby.....or can she refuse on the grounds of her body her choice?

I'm looking to see if you are consistent with your position that a woman's right to self determination of her body supersedes another's right to exist.

This doesn't equate very well. There is no factor forcing her to keep the baby unlike in a pregnancy, for obvious reasons.
However, yes, it is still her choice. It may be immoral to let the baby die but its her choice. I don't exactly see why she wouldn't feed the baby in this scenario since she would already be producing milk and there is plenty of food for her so the baby wouldn't be a drain on her....
If the baby was replaced by an injured adult in this scenario, one that needed a blood transfusion from her, the choice to either give blood or let them die would be easier. But I am consistent, if the woman doesn't want to give blood to the injured passenger, she doesn't have to. If the mother doesn't want to feed the baby, she doesn't have to.
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Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 12:28 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by SteelCurtain - May 20, 2014 at 12:32 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Minimalist - May 20, 2014 at 12:37 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 12:45 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Mystical - May 20, 2014 at 9:36 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Nine - May 20, 2014 at 12:43 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by RobbyPants - May 20, 2014 at 12:46 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 20, 2014 at 12:49 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 12:57 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Foxaèr - May 20, 2014 at 1:01 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 1:08 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Foxaèr - May 20, 2014 at 1:15 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Cato - May 20, 2014 at 1:28 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by pocaracas - May 20, 2014 at 1:43 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Foxaèr - May 20, 2014 at 1:48 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 2:45 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Confused Ape - May 20, 2014 at 1:28 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 20, 2014 at 1:04 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by RobbyPants - May 20, 2014 at 1:42 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Losty - May 22, 2014 at 3:17 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 22, 2014 at 5:26 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Losty - May 22, 2014 at 9:48 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Esquilax - May 22, 2014 at 10:04 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Losty - May 22, 2014 at 10:33 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by CapnAwesome - May 20, 2014 at 1:05 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Anomalocaris - May 20, 2014 at 1:10 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 2:36 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Anomalocaris - May 20, 2014 at 2:41 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 20, 2014 at 1:15 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by pocaracas - May 20, 2014 at 1:19 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 9:25 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Confused Ape - May 21, 2014 at 4:03 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by pocaracas - May 21, 2014 at 4:45 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Cinjin - May 22, 2014 at 2:20 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Esquilax - May 22, 2014 at 3:02 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Minimalist - May 20, 2014 at 1:33 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by rexbeccarox - May 20, 2014 at 2:43 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Anomalocaris - May 20, 2014 at 2:44 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 2:47 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Cato - May 20, 2014 at 2:52 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 3:04 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Cato - May 20, 2014 at 3:13 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 3:17 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Cato - May 20, 2014 at 3:18 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Ryantology - May 20, 2014 at 2:45 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 2:55 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Cato - May 20, 2014 at 2:59 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Ryantology - May 20, 2014 at 5:07 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Zen Badger - May 23, 2014 at 7:05 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 20, 2014 at 3:32 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Tonus - May 20, 2014 at 3:37 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 20, 2014 at 6:11 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 20, 2014 at 7:18 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Anomalocaris - May 20, 2014 at 7:45 pm
Re: RE: Abortion and Global warming - by KUSA - May 20, 2014 at 7:22 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Writer - May 20, 2014 at 8:16 pm
Abortion and Global warming - by Rampant.A.I. - May 20, 2014 at 7:27 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Cinjin - May 20, 2014 at 7:38 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Cinjin - May 20, 2014 at 8:37 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by paulpablo - May 20, 2014 at 9:43 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 9:52 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by paulpablo - May 21, 2014 at 5:05 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Tonus - May 21, 2014 at 5:19 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by paulpablo - May 21, 2014 at 5:46 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 20, 2014 at 9:54 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Writer - May 20, 2014 at 10:07 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 20, 2014 at 10:13 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 10:17 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 20, 2014 at 10:24 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 10:31 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 20, 2014 at 10:41 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 10:55 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 21, 2014 at 12:36 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 21, 2014 at 11:59 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 21, 2014 at 12:25 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 21, 2014 at 6:38 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Cato - May 22, 2014 at 5:48 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 22, 2014 at 6:57 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 22, 2014 at 7:37 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Cato - May 22, 2014 at 7:51 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 22, 2014 at 8:15 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Esquilax - May 22, 2014 at 8:40 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 22, 2014 at 10:38 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Losty - May 22, 2014 at 10:49 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 22, 2014 at 11:05 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Esquilax - May 22, 2014 at 12:15 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 22, 2014 at 8:49 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Esquilax - May 22, 2014 at 9:05 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 22, 2014 at 9:11 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Esquilax - May 22, 2014 at 9:16 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Esquilax - May 21, 2014 at 12:40 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by pocaracas - May 21, 2014 at 2:26 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by paulpablo - May 22, 2014 at 6:03 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Chas - May 26, 2014 at 3:29 pm
Abortion and Global warming - by Rampant.A.I. - May 20, 2014 at 11:11 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 11:22 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Esquilax - May 20, 2014 at 11:39 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 21, 2014 at 12:00 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Esquilax - May 21, 2014 at 12:03 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by max-greece - May 21, 2014 at 4:57 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Esquilax - May 21, 2014 at 5:28 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 21, 2014 at 5:23 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Ryantology - May 21, 2014 at 2:34 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Esquilax - May 21, 2014 at 2:47 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by The Valkyrie - May 21, 2014 at 3:29 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by LastPoet - May 21, 2014 at 3:48 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by The Valkyrie - May 21, 2014 at 3:49 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Esquilax - May 21, 2014 at 3:52 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 22, 2014 at 9:24 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 22, 2014 at 10:46 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 22, 2014 at 11:12 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 22, 2014 at 11:16 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 22, 2014 at 11:23 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Ryantology - May 22, 2014 at 2:00 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by pocaracas - May 22, 2014 at 2:24 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Cato - May 22, 2014 at 4:06 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by pocaracas - May 22, 2014 at 4:11 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Ryantology - May 22, 2014 at 4:30 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 22, 2014 at 10:45 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by pocaracas - May 22, 2014 at 10:46 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by pocaracas - May 22, 2014 at 11:35 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 22, 2014 at 11:43 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Losty - May 22, 2014 at 12:04 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 22, 2014 at 12:21 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Losty - May 22, 2014 at 12:27 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 22, 2014 at 12:28 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Esquilax - May 22, 2014 at 12:26 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Mudhammam - May 22, 2014 at 4:21 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 26, 2014 at 11:08 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Rampant.A.I. - May 22, 2014 at 7:29 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by DamianThomas - May 26, 2014 at 3:23 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Autumnlicious - May 27, 2014 at 12:35 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 27, 2014 at 12:39 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Losty - May 27, 2014 at 12:48 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Ryantology - May 27, 2014 at 1:16 am
Abortion and Global warming - by Rampant.A.I. - May 27, 2014 at 1:40 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Losty - May 27, 2014 at 1:50 am

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