RE: Abortion and Global warming
May 22, 2014 at 8:15 am
(This post was last modified: May 22, 2014 at 8:22 am by Heywood.)
(May 22, 2014 at 7:51 am)Cato Wrote:(May 22, 2014 at 6:57 am)Heywood Wrote: The example does work. Bad Wolf's claim was that a baby has a stronger right to exist then a zygote because we value them more. I was showing him the state of possessing existence rights has nothing to do with value by showing him that the state of being a car has nothing to do with its value.
You are still equivocating zygote and baby. I tried to make the distinction clear using your analogy by comparing a fully operable car with the stack of prints and incomplete collection of raw materials.
Do you understand the distinction or are you intentionally evading the obvious consideration?
You want to use my analogy to make a different point.....and that's perfectly okay. However it doesn't make the point I made moot or disappear. Further you using my analogy to make a different point doesn't estop me from defending my original point.
I ignored your point because it was superfluous. Is a baby a more developed human being then a zygote? Of course it is. Because the zygote is less developed does it make it not a human being? Of course not....if that were the case 2 year olds would not be human beings.
(May 22, 2014 at 7:37 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: However, I do agree that a baby has a 'stronger right to exist' as you put it, but not because we value them more. But because it is no longer forced onto someone like a zygote would be. The mother could simply put the baby up for adoption unlike with a zygote where she would have to carry it around against her will for 9 months if abortion was illegal.
The notion of a "stronger right to exist" is ludicrous. Either a being has an inalienable right to exist or it does not.
One reason I value the baby more is because it is cuter than the zygote.