RE: Gay pair to adopt children of unfit Catholic parents
May 27, 2014 at 10:11 pm
(This post was last modified: May 27, 2014 at 10:16 pm by Bittersmart.)
(May 27, 2014 at 9:44 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:(May 27, 2014 at 9:27 pm)Bittersmart Wrote: Gay people are normal people. They're just different from you, just like all the other kinds of people that are different from you.
I'm sorry, how is it normal that a person that is supposed to impregnate females with his thing actually uses it in a fencing match with another of his ilk?
You do know that homosexuality has been documented in animal species all across the world, right? It's a natural thing. In social animals, there is more to interaction than "stick penis in vagina, make babies". Sexual attraction, pleasure, bonding, all of it plays a role. And some animals, humans included, bond with and/or attracted to the same gender.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ani...l_behavior
Quote:True, they're different, so different that they're engaging in abnormal forms of pleasuring themselves. Well, I'm not going to discuss their antics.
It's not abnormal when it happens all the time, in humans, and in other species. It's a natural behavior. If you don't like that, too bad. That's nature. Just because you're straight doesn't mean it's "abnormal".
Quote:To the rest, I'll reply individually.
Quote:And who are you to decide what a "natural" family is?Well, I've explained that in my past posts. I guess I have to repeat myself.
I base it on the only way of creating a child. Sexual union between a man and a woman. A child needs her mother's milk, and during that time, she needs the support of someone. The people that lived long ago, have come to the conclusion that it would be better if the person who sired the child would act as the support of the child that was born. He had a biological connection with the child, so he would be of course, a better choice than a complete stranger. This is how the family institution was born.
There is nothing there that says that a child must have a man and a woman as a parent in order to be raised properly. It's all assumption. Family is more than your biological egg and sperm donors. Also, the gay parents that I know? They are raising their own biological children. Gay people have children, it happens all the time.
Quote:This institution does actually work fairly well, and human society has been built on this institution. Similarly, the marital institution was also based on this to secure a long-term commitment to the mother and her child.
So, who am I? I'm the child that was born from a family that I advocate as the only way to raise a child properly and efficiently.
While it may have been the most common way to raise a family, it was not the only way. Humanity has had many different versions of the family unit throughout it's history, and society didn't crumble. You are acting like someone born into a certain religion claiming that all other religions are wrong, but yours is right because that's how you've been raised.
Quote:Quote:There are many different types of families all over the world that produce well-rounded children.There is only one type of family. That one involves the guy, the woman, and the child. This type of family has long been idealized, and is engraved in our minds.
There are many types of family. What you describe is a 'nuclear' family, and you believe it is the "right" one, which is ridiculous. There is no "right" family. There are extended families, blended families, polygamous families, gay families, etc.
Quote:You need to re-evaluate your views if you believe there is something detrimental about being gay and/or being raised by gay people.Is this where you're telling me to check my privilige?
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This is where I tell you to crawl out of your narrow world-view.
kılıç_mehmet Wrote:In all, I think that this gay-adoption thing is based on nothing more than supply & demand.
Do you have any proof, or is this thought based solely on your bigotry against gays?
Quote:They merely demand this, and we're supposed to fulfill their wishes because they demand it. Yeah.
Ah, I see. Your bigotry and warped view of gays. Gotcha.
Quote:I still stand by my words that throughout history, they never had any stakes whatsoever in the familial institution, and yet here they are, claiming that they have rights to be parents, when they never were a part of the institution before.
They are PEOPLE. Holy shit, they belong to families and raise their own biological children, sometimes. They are a part of families, just not the nuclear family that you hold in such high esteem. Stop acting like gay people are weirdos who want to steal other people's babies, it's insane.
Quote:They had no real interest in it. Nowadays, we're supplying to a sexual minority with a notorious sub-culture the future of human society. Children. It is truly mind blowing how people are defending this whole ordeal.
Stop speaking for gay people. You obviously know nothing about them or what they think or want or feel. And you know nothing about all the wonderful children raised by gay parents, either. Do yourself a favor and stop talking. It's embarrassing.