The Newly Departed thread: announcements (departures)

[Whateverist]

Discussions on religious topics get highly repetitive and nearly always involve low lying fruit.  We don't get many (any?) interesting theist ideas expressed because - who would bother to try under these conditions?

I do agree that religious topics get too repetitive but I really wonder do theists have any interesting ideas anymore? I think I heard all the arguments and that's why religious topics get repetitive. I mean I watched some "God's Not Dead" movies, I heard William Lane Craig and those are rehashing and forcing the same old things. The Cosmic Argument, The Argument From Beauty, The Nature Is Too Complicated Argument etc. plus there are theists here that think how slavery is a good thing, that gay people are sick, six day creation, that women should cover their heads - but yeah don't be rude to them because they may have some interesting ideas they are afraid to express.

Yeah unfortunately apologetics is pretty much the only way xtians want to relate to atheists, but I don't have anything to say to those people.  They needn't bother because I have no interest in hearing unsolicited sales pitches generally and certainly not for what they're pedaling.  Apparently they think they have been charged by God with spreading the word and they're willing to suffer any kind of abuse for the sake of making that pitch.  I don't enjoy slamming my door in their face but fuck them for feeling entitled to my attention.  There are no good arguments for god belief and the only xtians I want to talk to are the ones who acknowledge that going in.  They do exist but they don't come here and they have no more interest in hearing unsolicited arguments against god belief than we have in what the missionaries have to say.  So to have an interesting conversation with a believer requires that you find the ones who aren't looking for you and that you approach them with respect.  I don't feel great about myself when I'm rude to other people so I sometimes just need to avoid this place.  But then nonbelievers are in the great majority where I live and no one except crazies is openly blabbing for Christ.  If I was surrounded by that shit I'm sure I'd feel differently .. but I don't want to feel differently.