(November 9, 2018 at 10:36 am)Shell B Wrote:(November 9, 2018 at 1:32 am)Minimalist Wrote: How does one have a meaningful discussion with someone who has no intention other than to wallpaper the place with pages from their particular book of fairy tales? Fuck that shit. If they want to discuss history that's fine. I'm all in. But pretending that any of this god shit is real is simply a bridge too far.
Exactly. I'm mostly polite about it or avoid the religious discussions altogether because I'm an atheist, but in order to take any of these discussions seriously, we have to entertain the idea that they might be correct, which is preposterous. I'll discuss unicorns with little girls as if they're real, but I will not do the same for adults without special needs. Moreover, they consider "attacks" on god as insulting, so how are they ever going to consider us civil, even when we're wearing our best Sunday clothes to the party? Finally, they completely brush off the utter rudeness parsed out by members like A Theist or Alpha Male on a regular basis, acting all fucking shocked that some atheists would dare to be rude to them when they have utter cunts on their "team" talking down to us all the time. The hypocrisy is laid on fucking thick, so if they're too blind to see that, they can sod off and stay that way.
I would agree with that up to the point that you hold them accountable for what members of "their team" do. That they do the same in reverse doesn't justify doing so. I can bring team into it when the discussion really is about their team, meaning Christians or Christianity as a whole. But justifying your behavior based on some people they are associated with is not such a discussion.
Me, for my part, I love debating religion. It's the other bits I sometimes get bored with. (Though lately I've had a general malaise infect my interest in debate overall.)