RE: The Newly Departed thread: announcements (departures)
November 19, 2018 at 4:13 pm
(This post was last modified: November 19, 2018 at 4:14 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(November 19, 2018 at 4:04 pm)Whateverist Wrote:(November 19, 2018 at 2:58 pm)Aegon Wrote: I was extremely excited to discuss public policy issues in that subforum. Debating politics under those rules would have been so refreshing. As for the debate section, I'm going to echo RoadRunner's sentiments and say that I don't want a heavily structured debate. I'm busy, and I like responding on my own time, piece by piece. I just want a discussion that isn't riddled with insults, whataboutisms, and childish distraction. I don't get that on the general forum, whether it be about religion, politics, or philosophy.
I just don't understand why users who weren't using it have an issue with its existence. Just don't go in it? I mean, come on. What was the harm in having it? I don't understand!
That's what the rabid hoard here won't acknowledge. That sub-forum was not just for the half dozen xtians who left. Jorm, Khem, Tibs and myself were also choosing to trade our freedom to be spastically rude for the opportunity for a better level of discussion. But the hoard wants to insist it was just a place where the xtians could hold up and say stuff unchallenged.
Oh well it was great while it lasted. Too bad atheists-must-be-rude-to-be-free hoard was so effective. Though I really think it was too taxing for Tibs to do alone. If any sustainable way is ever found to moderate such a thing and if they can beat back the hoard I'd be game to try again. But otherwise, not worth it here like this.
Yep, plenty of respected atheists here liked the idea and intended on putting it to use. Whateverist, VulcanLogician, LadyForCamus, Aegon, Tiberius, Poca, Fat&Faithless, Belaqua, Mooney, etc... and even Khem, who I otherwise despise, was really impressing me and I was for once able to relate to some of what he was saying and see his point of view.
If part of the reason the uproar happened is because people perceived it as having been "for the theists", or that we "took advantage of Tibs," please see my post above.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh