Dr. Doug Graham (80-10-10 raw vegan)

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I don't feel like citing everything again, but I'll provide the sources you requested:
Iron & Alzheimer:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20150596
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19968254
http://wnit.org/braingames/pdf/risk.pdf (up to half of Alzheimer's cases seems to be preventable with diet and lifestyle changes)

In case you didn't notice I'm not interested at all in that claim, especially since vegan diets are iron deficient.

B12:
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/38/3/436.long
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/48/3/852.full.pdf
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/71/2/514.full (1 in 6 meat eaters is b12 deficient)

A 1983 paper, are you serious? That's when I was BORN.

Anyway you're well in denial if you're saying B12 isn't a specifically vegetarian deficiency.

Protein and many of the diseases I mentioned:
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsou...t/protein/ (a good summary of why animal protein is bad)
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/59/5/1203S.full.pdf (plant protein sources)

On the second link it states that incomplete amino acids come from plants; it is not an academic paper describing whether all humans can digest such proteins.

As for the first paper, it's so biased I can't believe you'd even link to it. Granted the studies they link to do show the results they claim, but they have nothing to do with protein or protein source in particular. This is just an example of data-mining.

Some stuff about milk and bone health:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8610662

From the abstract you link to it states nothing about calcium to bone health; and it's nearly 20 years old.

Heart disease & cholesterol:
http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/17...l.pdf+html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21029840
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9036757

Which I'm not going to bother to read until you demonstrate to me that you even know what cholesterol is??

By the way, I'd like a source on the we need 15% of cholesterol from diet thing. And do you really think the numbers of mental illness are caused by cholesterol deficiency? The far, far majority of people eats meat, dairy and eggs constantly, so I don't think that's the problem we're facing right now.

You'll find that in any textbook. Try Saladin, K. Anatomy and Physiology (6th ed), 2012. To quote from that book: "There is only one kind of cholesterol, and it does far more good than harm" (p. 66).

I admit there is a lot less calcium in naturally occurring plant foods than in milk, but the calcium in plant foods does come with a lot less baggage.

You have this concept of "baggage" that is arbitrary.

Well, if you're not going to rear animals there's gonna be more demand for plant foods, although admittedly plant foods need way less space than livestock. The remaining room could be used for forests, those are nice and excellent for the environment. By the way, don't delude yourself; 99% of the animals raised for slaughter live on factory farms.

So what? Chickens are factory farmed, which I don't have a problem with.

Cattle are raised on grass, and around 80% or so are fattened on seed in feed lots.

All are killed humanely (this is Australia I'm talking about).

The reason I think the meat and dairy industries are the biggest environmental problem right now:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/13/460552...can-fix-it

Yeah, I'd be a little more sceptical of that if I were you. That's all I'll say for now on that.

Livestock industry is resonsible for 50% of human -caused greenhouse gasses

That's true, but I'm not concerned about anthropogenic GHGs.

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If we weigh the amount of b12 that we need in our lifetime it would have the same weight as 3 or 4 rice grains.
We can get this amount in the occasional unwashed food that we eat here and there but to be 100% safe many people opt for b12 supplement from non-meat sources.

Harley was raised veterinarian, not vegan, from the age of 4. He had very low B12 and took B12 oral supplements, which did not raise his B12. He then tried IV B12. That caused him to realise that you need meat for B12, and if you need meat for B12 perhaps you need it for other things. After that he changed his diet and mostly healed himself.

When the arteries are clogged up with saturated fats and cholesterol from mainly meat and eggs the blood can not get to the brains easily and this is one factor Alzheimer, dementia and Parkinson diseases but other factors are also to take in due consideration like the fluoridation in the water.
http://www.fluoridegate.org/the-film/

1. what do you think "saturated" vs. "unsaturated" fat is?
2. what do you think cholesterol is?

Long long time ago Australia was covered in dense forests.
How do we know?

Ha, no it wasn't.

Dumbass.

The experts are those whose suggestions give top results.
Again how can you call expert people whose suggestions lead to sickness?

Incorrect. "Experts" are people who conduct research and publish evidence.