(December 10, 2014 at 1:13 pm)Surgenator Wrote:(December 10, 2014 at 5:36 am)Riketto Wrote: Ok. so let me ask you one thing.I prove my love with my actions and my intentions to the person of interest.
Suppose you are in love with somebody.......i pop up and ask you to give me evidence that you really are in love with someone.
Quote:How do you think you can prove to me that your love is real and such love produce a nice feeling?Love is a nice feeling.
Quote:Once again you are making a terrible confusion.LOL. The distiction you're trying to wedge in doesn't exist because the resulting NDEs are the same. For example, if you drove to Las Vegas using highway 93 and I used highway 95, we would still arive at Las Vegas. The method doesn't matter if the effects are the same.
Even accelarations come under the so called induced ways of creating an artificial feeling that you got an NDE.
Drugs and medications although are a different things they also can cause an induced feeling of an NDE so here we got a huge difference between natural death and induced death feeling.
Dopamine and other types of hormones like melatonin are produced by the glands only when the individual need it and the natural death also come when there is a valid reason for it so although the dopamine and other hormone can be produced in lab the final effects can not be the same.
It would be to compare making love with a masturbation.
Quote:Shermer is a professional denialist.Please address Sherman's arguments and not waste time assisinating his character.
He enjoy deny everything without even trying to experience for himself what he is denying.
He search here and there until he find someone who agree with him and then saying that he can prove that such and such belief is wrong based on somebody else idea.
Again he is a bit like you that believe that there is no difference between a natural death an an induce feeling of death.
Quote:Put it in the way that you most like it.Why doesn't make sense to you?
To me your comparison doesn't make any sense at all.
I only got few minutes before i have to go so i will only answer the last question and leave the rest for tomorrow.
When you say.................It doesn't matter how many people follow exactly what Buddha says. The Buddhist religion says the ultimate goal is to rid oneself of wants. It's all internally focused. So your imaginary seperation between spiritualism is internal and religion is external is bullshit................is not the Buddhist religion that say this.
Buddha has really nothing to do with religion.
Buddha teach spirituality not religion so it is Buddha spiritual message that say that not Buddhism religion that came later.
Religion is all about worship while spirituality is all about self knowledge which eventually lead to God realization.
Those who practice only yoga exercises have really nothing to do with not only spirituality but even with religion because as i just said religion imply worship.
There is no worship in asanas or yoga exercises so these people have nothing to do with either spirituality or religion while 99% of the so called Buddhism follow religion and have nothing to do with spirituality.