RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 6, 2015 at 5:25 pm
(This post was last modified: January 6, 2015 at 5:27 pm by Heywood.)
(January 6, 2015 at 2:24 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Yeah... except that the whole point of your inferring design in evolution is the assumption that mutations, beneficial or not, are intended to achieve a specific ends for the species... a claim that is refuted by all observation. Moreover, as Coyne also states, "we never see adaptations that benefit the species at the expense of the individual---something that we might have expected if organisms were designed by a beneficent creator."
Coyne is referring to the products of evolution not the evolutionary system itself. You either mis-understand what I am saying or you are misunderstanding what Coyne is saying. In this thread, when I say evolutionary systems require the existence of intellects, it has nothing to do with the products of the evolutionary system.
(January 6, 2015 at 2:27 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Look, I can keep affording you the opportunity to make an ass out of yourself if that's what you like.
Or, you can, as you've been invited to do (again...and again...and again) - elaborate on whatever point of disagreement you have with -any- of the the examples that you've already been given. I know, sounds revolutionary, but it actually works.
Again I ask you or anyone else to quote these mysterious examples that have allegedly been given. Since you can offer no proof for the existence of these miraculous examples that falsify my claim, I see no reason to believe they exist at all.