(February 13, 2015 at 3:51 pm)Heywood Wrote:(February 13, 2015 at 12:16 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: There is no known mechanism whereby intellect can spontaneously spring into being, so evolution cannot pre date intellect because the only way intellect is known to exist is by a process of evolution.
Heywoods "argument" puts the cart before the horse.
We know evolutionary systems create intellect.
We know intellects create evolutionary systems.
We don't know what came first.....the evolutionary system or the intellect. You just assume it was the evolutionary systems because such an assumption is necessary to maintain your atheistic faith.
(February 13, 2015 at 12:51 pm)JesusHChrist Wrote: The bottom boxes inherit all of the properties of the parent, but have unique attributes of their own. They share all of the properties of the parent with each other.
The parent "box" is all Heywood systems. If all Heywood systems have the property of requiring intellect then the "bottom boxes" have that property as well. The bottom boxes would be "Heywood systems which use reproduction as its means of replication" and "Heywood systems which do not use reproduction as its means of replication".
Can you explain how intelligence develops spontaneously without evolution?
I want evidence and supporting peer reviewed papers to support your argument.
By the way I reject your assertion that evolution is a system.
This implies planning and evolution does not need that by it's very nature.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.