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RE: Proof of God

April 22, 2015 at 4:45 pm (This post was last modified: April 22, 2015 at 4:49 pm by bennyboy.)

(April 22, 2015 at 1:44 pm)Harris Wrote:
(April 20, 2015 at 1:43 pm)bennyboy Wrote: I was attacking your ideas about God, which are illogical, and you used the greatness of Islam, especially its growth, as evidence supporting you God idea.
If in your mind God is Illogical then does that mean that all those who believe in God are Illogical people who are much greater in number than you (atheist) are.

I didn't say "God is Illogical." I said "your ideas about God. . . are illogical." And this is no more a matter of opinion than whether the world can logically be considered flat. Good god + dying babies = illogical.

Quote:Please be refrain from dragging me into politics if you are only interested in “Proof of God.”

Please stop using politics to support your idea of God.

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(April 20, 2015 at 1:43 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Sure they do. I know they do, because all those words have meaning, and there is no God. Those things are good which seem to me beneficial and healthy, and those things are bad which seem to me counterproductive or destructive.
This argument is a perfect example of Argumentum Ex Culo
You: "If there were a good God, then He would not make a world that could have evil. There is evil in the world; therefore, a good God did not create it."
Me: "How do you define good without God."
You: "I just know what is good and what is not by feeling."

If you're going to quote, don't paraphrase the thing you just quoted. I didn't say that I magically know what is good and not by feeling; I say that people's feelings about things DEFINE what is good to them. That's what meanings MEAN: people have a feeling or idea, and make a word to describe it. However, the supposed goodness of God-- suffering babies and religious wars-- do not meet any sane person's definition of goodness.
If you want to argue that babies who are born, get malaria, and die a week later are good, then it's pretty much /thread, because you're insane.

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(April 20, 2015 at 1:43 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Humans are a social animal,
Why humans are social animals?

Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. Evolution.

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(April 20, 2015 at 1:43 pm)bennyboy Wrote: and have instincts that allow us to work together. These include a sense of right and wrong, the feelings of familial love and brotherhood, and so on.
From where all these instincts came into human?

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(April 20, 2015 at 1:43 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Your religious texts didn't create moral feelings-- they reflect an ancient (and mostly uneducated) culture's response to those feelings.
You advocate the idea of no God blindly and by overruling all the logical facts in favour of God. For instance, I have argued that without God:
• Universe came out of nothing,
• Life appeared on earth by accident, and
• Intelligence happened by lucky mutation.

I've never said that philosophically speaking, God is not a possibility. I have good evidence, however, that your God idea does not represent reality. I can also say that if God is intrinsically good, your particular religion represents neither reality NOR God.

Quote:In this entire scenario what is the meaning of GOOD and what is the meaning of BAD. Nothingness, accident, and chance do not know GOOD and do not know BAD. Therefore, nonexistence of God confirms that good and bad have no meanings.

Fuck off with that. Go look in a dictionary, and you'll see the meanings of GOOD and BAD. None of them are dependent on a 1500 year-old mythology rooted in a 3000 year-old mythology.

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