Stump the Christian?

[dyresand]

Is this really what you're going to do? You have the definition of a scientific theory, which includes a list of essential criteria, including falsifiability and predictive capability, parsimony, and consistency with other experimental results, and instead of seriously engaging in this conversation you're just going to dishonestly grandstand like this?

Well, whatever. You don't match any of the criteria: what you have here is just a theory, a guess based on your presuppositions, rather than a scientific theory. I'm genuinely sorry that playing up to your own pride is more important to you than the honest discussion that could have taken place here.



Universal expansion has a cause, beyond that we don't even have an adequate physics model to explain what happens. Learn your astrophysics.



Okay.



And now you've made a claim that is both unfalsifiable and unevidenced. I thought this was supposed to be a list of evidence, why are you putting a completely unjustified fiat claim on it?



Five unjustified fiat claims? How on earth can you consider this a list of evidence?




What an utter disappointment you've turned out to be. You're not interested in learning, you're just another patsy for your religion. It's completely vile that you represented yourself as someone willing to engage honestly with the facts, when in truth you were nothing but. I thought your god didn't like liars, so I guess your devotion to him is secondary to your need to massage your ego.

I never said I was proposing a scientific theory.

You label my evidence as unjustified fiat claims. I did not dream these things up. There is evidence. You might not like the quality of the evidence, but evidence never-the-less. BTW, I forgot Fine-tuning.

I have heard your arguments over and over again against this list. I don't find them convincing when you consider the whole list at the same time. I am not attempting to prove the existence of God--merely defend the idea that it is reasonable to believe in the God of Christianity.

Dishonest yet again....