Stump the Christian?

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I also understand that you cannot see the evidence and proofs for Christianity and God clearly. It does exist, and you have heard it, but you have not really heard it, because if you had, you would arguing in this forum from my side of the divide.

Sounds to me like you have a presupposition that your arguments are inherently convincing in all cases.

Now, this is a puzzlement. The easy answer is to say that apart from God's grace, you cannot "see" and "hear", and that may be the only explanation that is possible. I understand that many here are former Christians...these are the seeds that fell on the path and were eaten by birds or that sprang up quickly but withered when they had no root or even some that may have been choked by weeds. I cannot say why this happened...only that Jesus spoke of it, and his words have proven to be true.

Yeah, because the other alternative, that "Jesus'" words were nothing but self reinforcing pablum designed to turn all resistance into failure of character, just can't be true!