RE: Antitheism
February 4, 2016 at 11:15 am
(This post was last modified: February 4, 2016 at 11:17 am by Mister Agenda.)
Excited Penguin Wrote:Mister Agenda Wrote:ac·tiveEvery single person on these forums who identifies as an atheist and ever talked shit about theism or religion, whether they realized they were talking about the former or not, were effectively being antitheists. This is a public forum. You talk shit about God or any theistic religion, you're an antitheist. If you don't want to be one, stop talking shit about God. You can be secular without criticizing a theistic religion. Christianity is theistic. Countless times I've seen people who now identify as non-antitheists criticize Christianity. What more is there to say? This is childish and ludicrous.
ˈaktiv/
adjective
adjective: active
1.
(of a person) engaging or ready to engage in physically energetic pursuits.
"I needed to change my lifestyle and become more active"
2.
doing things for an organization, cause, or campaign, rather than simply giving it one's support.
"she was an active member of the church"
Definition 2 would be the one that applies to antitheism.
I've even been told I'm slandering people for calling them antitheists. Would I be slandering him if I called him a human being and he didn't agree with it? No, because that's what he is. It's the same with antitheism, I'll bet, even though I don't remember ever seeing him criticizing God or Christianity in any way, I'll bet anything he did do it.
I appreciate you choosing to unblock me, EP.
If you don't think being antitheist requires active opposition to theism; you shouldn't hang your hat on that definition. Merely disagreeing with something or disliking something, or even talking smack about something does not rise to the level of 'active opposition'.
I don't care about wanting or not wanting to be an antitheist. I care about the labels I choose to attach to my identity being accurate. If criticizing even one version of God or one religion, ever, makes you an antitheist, then there are definitely hundreds of millions of theists who are antitheists. I've heard Muslims criticize Christianity and Christians criticize Islam. By the standards you're using, that would make them antitheists. Remember, the definition to which you linked doesn't say anything about the person who actively opposes theism being an atheist. The definition of antitheism makes more sense if antitheism means active opposition to theism in any form. And that would mean that atheists can actively oppose some forms of theistic religion without being antitheists if there are forms of theistic religion they are not against. For instance, I can't think of a single problem I have with liberal Quakers. The WBC is a different matter. I think Ahmadiyya Muslims are kind of great, but I think Daesh sucks, especially their clerics. I've got no beef with deists, though I'm happy to argue with them for the sport of it. Are you sure I'm an antitheist?
If someone doesn't want to be called a human being and you kept arguing with them about it, at some point, you're the dick. It's no skin off your nose if someone doesn't want to be called a human being. People are allowed to be wrong without being hounded until they admit it. And some days, I can see why someone might take 'human being' as insulting.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.