Antitheism

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Asserting that their beliefs, no matter how extreme, are unassailable truth, and unbacked,
is an opposition to someone who disagrees with you, and believes differently.

Yes.  And rightly so.

It is naive to say that anyone who has no backing for their belief, should be responsible for what their doctrine teaches, because they undoubtedly do not see it in the same light.

Naive, it is not.

It is a jarring, unsympathetic, but an absolutely deserved and necessary wake-up call.

Everyone is responsible for themselves.  Period.

Especially if you're hurting others with your stupid doctrine.

To tell the victims that suffer as a result of the evils of that doctrine,
that they should be sympathetic to the idiot perpetuators of that doctrine,
is appalling.

That's like telling the LGBT that they should not hold Right-Wing Christians responsible
for opposing the LGBT right to marry in a country that is not a Theocracy.

That's like telling young girls in the Middle East that they are wrong to hold Muslim men responsible
for mutilating the genitals of said young girls, because their religion says it's okay.

And you call MY point of view "despicable".

Your pandering to those in the grip of religion is the very attitude that encourages religious groups to make more and more demands for accommodation.

To say an unknowing ignorant believer should be responsible for not changing their violent beliefs, when they do not see them or are ignorant to the fact that they are unjustly violent in the first place, is a failure to understand what the other person actually believes.

you're absolutely right.

We should just always accommodate people with violent beliefs
and never point out their hypocrisy to them
or hold them accountable in any way,

because it's only rational, decent, intelligent, peaceful people who should be held rigidly responsible for their actions.

Or maybe nobody should be held responsible.

What's wrong with you????

Actions are entirely different from words, thoughts. That's why we have free speech.

Which side of this argument are you on????

Charlie Hebdo exercised their freedom of speech and religious maniacs shot them to bits,
and now you're telling me I shouldn't hold those religious maniacs accountable for their religious mania.

What you suggest is that we try to control minds, which is despicable.

Um, no.

It is the religious who control minds.  And I agree that it is despicable.

What I am trying to do, is free them.