The Problem with Christians

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This comment probably deserves its own thread since it is so far off the mark. Islam denies that Jesus is the son of God. It denies that he is God, which is central to Christian belief. Their messiah is the twelfth imam or the Mahdi, and he is definitely not Jesus, in fact it is likely that the Mahdi is none other than the antichrist himself.

This would by why, of course, the quran refers to Jesus like this:

(Remember) when the angels said, “O Mary, God gives you good news of a word from Him (God), whose name is the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, revered in this world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near (to God). He will speak to the people from his cradle and as a man, and he is of the righteous.” She said, “My Lord, how can I have a child when no mortal has touched me?” He said, “So (it will be). God creates what He wills. If He decrees a thing, He says to it only, ‘Be!’ and it is.”

So, they call Jesus Messiah, treat him as a holy person, and so on. Saying otherwise just makes you ignorant of the actual content of their holy book.

 

Christianity says Jesus is the  only path to eternal life and Islam says that worship of Allah and Mohammed are the only path. I could go on and on about how the beliefs of the two religions contradict each other to the point of being diametrically opposed but this will suffice for now.    

I said from the beginning that islam has a different interpretation of your religion, but your claim that they deny christianity is simply false, regardless. Everything in the new testament happened in the islamic canon, it's just that they go a bit further and differ on the details. Going back and pointing out which details they differ on doesn't change the main point, which is that they accept that the timeline of your religion happened, and worship your god. They just think that your god did more stuff after Jesus. They do not deny your beliefs, or else you're working with some really strange definitions: if your idea of denial is an acceptance of the historicity of everything within your holy book bar a single claim, then I don't know what to tell you.

I deny your religion more than the muslims do, and yet you don't consider me to be the fulfillment of this prophecy. Again, you're just stretching to retrofit vague bible-words into the modern day, which is actually a prophecy working in reverse.

Fair point. It is noteworthy though that there are more than a few researchers stating that Christians are the most persecuted people group in the world, especially in the middle east.

Wow, uncited and completely vague promises of "researchers" agreeing with you?! What more could I want?

Do you have anything more than unsupported assertions, on that score?

Forgive my skepticism but this is hard to believe. If you really value the rights of people to believe whatever they want, why all the antagonism towards believers?

Since when does personal animus equate to a desire to rid people of their rights? Can you not dislike something without wanting to make it illegal?