(March 11, 2016 at 1:54 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(March 11, 2016 at 1:36 pm)Esquilax Wrote: They aren't remotely the same thing. Atheists aren't a group, numbnuts. They are individual people who happen to share a single conclusion. They're no more a group than "people who like the color blue," are a group. What you're doing here is base equivocation.
Actually what you describe ARE in fact considered groups.
Group: a number of people who are connected by some shared activity, interest, or quality
(March 11, 2016 at 1:36 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Moreover, and this would be some of that nuance stuff that you have real trouble with where it contradicts what you want to believe, making illogical arguments in general is not a bad thing. It's part of the human condition, and there's no shame in it at all, so long as you can identify and correct the error. The problem with christians- which is fully present in Kitan's OP- is that they never identify that error, which in this case is the root beliefs of their religion. Instead, they ignore the basics of logic in favor of making arguments to get to a preconceived conclusion, rather than using logic to reach whatever conclusion is best. The problem is the exclusive lack of logic that theism demands, were one to attempt to argue for theism.*emphasis mine*
That is in there, you know. You'd just have to be reading the post without the presupposition that it needs to be wrong, and this weird, neurotic drive you have to twist everything to fit that presupposition.
And I can prove Atheists do the same thing.
Must I remind you of a certain incident where all the atheists were on the wrong side of the argument despite the PROOF being presented? Talk about ignoring the basics of logic in favor of making arguments to get to a preconceived conclusion...
You stupid, ignorant shit! Your malicious equivocation does absolutely nothing to change the facts as they are - atheism has nothing to do with ignoring logic, is not based on any preconceived conclusions, nor "failure to identify an error". Everyone makes errors, and wise atheists don't take exemption to that, but when and where we are right, this is backed with solid evidence. You have nothing behind your arguments other than more arguments, equivocations, and other malicious fallacies. You need to stop being such an ignorant douche and learn the difference between science and the art of argument, or you'll never get anywhere here.
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