(April 27, 2016 at 5:51 am)robvalue Wrote: How to prove god using science against itself:
1) Find some scientific theory that sounds like it might support your position. Accept it is true, even though you don't understand it.
2) Use this theory to try and disprove another theory, which you also don't understand, that sounds like it doesn't support your position. Misrepresent both theories as much as you like.
3) Having "dealt with" the scientific explanation, insert your own unsupported magical load of garbage into the hole you think you've made.
The problem of FINE TUNING ARGUMENT is bursting right in the faces of scientists and they do not know what explication they give to explain FINE TUNING without referencing it to God.
“… we really do have a big problem to explain in the apparent fine-tuning of the fundamental constants.”
Page 142
The God Delusion
Richard Dawkins
“… the special properties of the physical universe are so surprisingly fine-tuned that they demand explanation.”
Preface
The Cosmis Landscape
"String Theory and the Illusion of Intelligent Design"
Leonard Susskind
"The laws of science, as we know them at present, contain many fundamental numbers, like the size of the electric charge of the electron and the ratio of the masses of the proton and the electron. ... The remarkable fact is that the values of these numbers seem to have been very finely adjusted to make possible the development of life."
Page 125
A Brief History of Time
Stephen Hawking
“A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as with chemistry and biology, and that THERE ARE NO BLIND FORCES worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one calculates from the facts seem to me so overwhelming as to put this conclusion almost beyond question.”
Fred Hoyle
"The Universe: Past and Present Reflections,"
Engineering and Science,
November 1981
