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Existence must exist at all times.
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RE: Existence must exist at all times.
(November 7, 2016 at 10:40 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Well... I guess my whole point is : nothing can't be.
Probably too strong of a claim.

Quote:There isn't an alternative universe that isn't a universe Big Grin

Not an existential question.  That's a qualitative issue. 

Quote:There are no hypothetical absences of universes. Universes are present by nature of being a universe.
That would be a strange formulation of the linguistic problem of negative existentials.  

If we say, as we might, in reference to the first sentence That "hypothetical absences of universes do not exist" - we've contradicted ourselves...obviously hypothetical absences of universes -do- exist, they are exactly what we are objecting to, lol.  What we mean to say is that such hypotheticals are not accurate or are somehow flawed - a qualitative issue, not an existential one.  

Plenty of answers to the issue of negative existentials, but we don't know which, if any of them, are accurate...which is -one- of the reasons that the claim at the very top is too strong of a claim.  We don't know whether or not "nothing can/cannot be"...but we do know we have a hell of a difficult time even discussing it, let alone answering the question. OFC, other languages, and other systems of inference don't even have this problem - and that's amusing to note. It's not the only place that natural language is or may be a stumbling block, we run into a similar issue in considering the direction and nature of causality, at least in english, lol..in what's sometimes called the problem of the ship at sea.
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Existence must exist at all times. - by Edwardo Piet - May 21, 2016 at 5:54 am
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by bennyboy - May 21, 2016 at 7:56 pm
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by brewer - May 21, 2016 at 9:22 pm
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by Foxaèr - May 21, 2016 at 9:24 pm
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by Edwardo Piet - November 7, 2016 at 10:31 pm
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by quip - May 24, 2016 at 5:59 pm
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by Edwardo Piet - November 7, 2016 at 10:26 pm
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by Whateverist - November 7, 2016 at 10:33 pm
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by Edwardo Piet - November 7, 2016 at 10:40 pm
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by ApeNotKillApe - November 7, 2016 at 11:30 pm
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by Edwardo Piet - November 7, 2016 at 11:31 pm
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by brewer - November 8, 2016 at 12:59 pm
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by Edwardo Piet - November 9, 2016 at 4:30 pm
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by vorlon13 - November 8, 2016 at 12:17 am
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by ignoramus - November 8, 2016 at 4:49 am
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by brewer - November 8, 2016 at 1:00 pm
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by chimp3 - November 8, 2016 at 5:34 am
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by The Grand Nudger - November 8, 2016 at 1:30 pm
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by Edwardo Piet - November 9, 2016 at 4:54 pm
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by theologian - November 9, 2016 at 4:26 pm
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by Edwardo Piet - November 22, 2016 at 11:41 am
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by Ignorant - November 23, 2016 at 6:57 am
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by Edwardo Piet - November 25, 2016 at 6:14 pm
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by Ignorant - November 25, 2016 at 6:16 pm
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by Edwardo Piet - November 25, 2016 at 6:18 pm
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by vorlon13 - November 25, 2016 at 6:16 pm
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by Ignorant - November 25, 2016 at 6:18 pm
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by Edwardo Piet - November 25, 2016 at 6:23 pm
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by Ignorant - November 25, 2016 at 6:29 pm
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by bennyboy - November 25, 2016 at 7:53 pm
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by Ignorant - November 26, 2016 at 4:27 am
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by bennyboy - November 26, 2016 at 7:31 am
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by Edwardo Piet - November 26, 2016 at 10:51 am
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by Ignorant - November 28, 2016 at 4:24 am
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by bennyboy - November 28, 2016 at 5:36 am
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by Ignorant - November 28, 2016 at 1:07 pm
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by bennyboy - November 28, 2016 at 6:45 pm
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by Edwardo Piet - November 28, 2016 at 6:46 pm
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by Edwardo Piet - November 25, 2016 at 8:08 pm
RE: Existence must exist at all times. - by bennyboy - November 26, 2016 at 6:47 pm

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