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Coup d'État in Turkey under way?
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RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way?
While it is not impossible that erdogan manufacture this coup for an opportunity to crack down, I doubt it is actually what had happened.   I suspect it was a genuine coup attempt.  At the most the coup may not have been unexpected by erdogan and he cunningly plotted to exploit it before it had happened.  The reason why I don't think it was completely manufactured by erdogan is however much erdogan may have tried to shape the officer Corp since taking power, the streak of kamalism runs deep in the army, and the army sees itself as a elite institute toon with an interest of its own, that is a step above the civil society and whose interest supersedes the interest of any current government.  it seems unlikely a trick so blatantly against the interests of the army itself could have maintained its secrecy and not have been intentionally exposed by some element of the army to protect the interest of the army.

The dilettantism of the rebel troops could be the result of the fact that the coup plotters did not have the cooperation of key officers, and yet for some as yet unknown reason felt it necessary to act now rather than later.   As a result the planning was poor.

Erdogan's decision to effectively blockade the US air base in turkey seem to suggest that either he suspects the US had lent tacit support to the coup, and would harbor coup plotters and continue to ferment trouble for him, or he is intentionally causing a breach with the US because he sought a permanent breach with the west, and the US, consistent with the story line of the jihadists, is seen to be the most important proxy for the west in general.
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Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Alex K - July 15, 2016 at 4:28 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by c172 - July 15, 2016 at 4:29 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Jello - July 15, 2016 at 4:39 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Alex K - July 15, 2016 at 5:04 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by c172 - July 15, 2016 at 4:57 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Alex K - July 15, 2016 at 5:03 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Jello - July 15, 2016 at 5:05 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by abaris - July 15, 2016 at 5:17 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Alex K - July 15, 2016 at 5:21 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by abaris - July 15, 2016 at 5:25 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by pocaracas - July 15, 2016 at 5:26 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by abaris - July 15, 2016 at 5:29 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by pocaracas - July 15, 2016 at 5:31 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by abaris - July 15, 2016 at 5:34 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by pocaracas - July 15, 2016 at 5:38 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by abaris - July 15, 2016 at 5:32 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Minimalist - July 15, 2016 at 5:50 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Anomalocaris - July 15, 2016 at 5:57 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by abaris - July 15, 2016 at 6:18 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Jello - July 15, 2016 at 5:55 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Anomalocaris - July 15, 2016 at 5:57 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by RozKek - July 15, 2016 at 6:06 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by pocaracas - July 15, 2016 at 6:13 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Jackalope - July 15, 2016 at 6:20 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by pocaracas - July 15, 2016 at 6:22 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by abaris - July 15, 2016 at 6:24 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Jackalope - July 15, 2016 at 6:28 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Minimalist - July 15, 2016 at 6:29 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by abaris - July 15, 2016 at 6:31 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Anomalocaris - July 15, 2016 at 6:43 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by RozKek - July 15, 2016 at 6:59 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Tiberius - July 15, 2016 at 7:06 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by abaris - July 15, 2016 at 7:18 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Tiberius - July 15, 2016 at 7:27 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by RozKek - July 15, 2016 at 7:37 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by RozKek - July 15, 2016 at 8:33 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Jello - July 15, 2016 at 8:52 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Anomalocaris - July 15, 2016 at 9:29 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by WinterHold - July 15, 2016 at 10:18 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Jello - July 15, 2016 at 9:32 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by abaris - July 16, 2016 at 4:53 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Anomalocaris - July 15, 2016 at 10:07 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by abaris - July 16, 2016 at 3:43 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by abaris - July 16, 2016 at 5:23 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Anomalocaris - July 16, 2016 at 7:04 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by abaris - July 16, 2016 at 7:27 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Anomalocaris - July 16, 2016 at 7:48 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by abaris - July 16, 2016 at 8:56 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by downbeatplumb - July 16, 2016 at 10:23 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Anomalocaris - July 16, 2016 at 8:54 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Anomalocaris - July 16, 2016 at 10:14 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by abaris - July 16, 2016 at 11:17 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by abaris - July 16, 2016 at 1:15 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by abaris - July 19, 2016 at 5:14 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by abaris - July 16, 2016 at 8:45 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Anomalocaris - July 16, 2016 at 11:48 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by abaris - July 19, 2016 at 2:31 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by SofaKingHigh - July 19, 2016 at 5:23 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by abaris - July 19, 2016 at 5:42 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by SofaKingHigh - July 19, 2016 at 5:47 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by abaris - July 19, 2016 at 3:06 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by pocaracas - July 19, 2016 at 5:48 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by abaris - July 19, 2016 at 6:09 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by pocaracas - July 19, 2016 at 6:19 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by abaris - July 19, 2016 at 6:23 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by pocaracas - July 19, 2016 at 6:29 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by abaris - July 19, 2016 at 6:58 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by paulpablo - July 19, 2016 at 6:59 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Anomalocaris - July 19, 2016 at 7:08 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by pocaracas - July 19, 2016 at 8:01 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by abaris - July 19, 2016 at 9:07 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by abaris - July 19, 2016 at 11:11 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Anomalocaris - July 19, 2016 at 11:17 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by vorlon13 - July 19, 2016 at 11:22 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by pocaracas - July 19, 2016 at 11:27 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by abaris - July 19, 2016 at 11:31 am
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Anomalocaris - July 19, 2016 at 10:10 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Angrboda - July 20, 2016 at 2:48 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by abaris - July 20, 2016 at 2:52 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Alex K - July 20, 2016 at 2:57 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Alex K - July 20, 2016 at 4:21 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Jackalope - July 20, 2016 at 4:34 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by abaris - July 20, 2016 at 4:55 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Jackalope - July 20, 2016 at 8:22 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Jackalope - July 20, 2016 at 8:24 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by Jackalope - July 20, 2016 at 8:38 pm
RE: Coup d'État in Turkey under way? - by abaris - July 21, 2016 at 7:13 am

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