Cash for vasectomy....

[Autumnlicious]

Well you can, but I trust you not to, and if you do, I trust you to have a good reason for it, and if you don't, I'm sure you'll trust me to respond appropriately. All conversations depend on mutual trust. If that breaks down, you can't legislate for it in its place.

Ah, the usual oppositional "you can't make me" stuff. Really tiring. Why don't you go revolt against the Man? Hm?

When you're ready to reintegrate into conversation without playing ideologue games of redefine this and that, let me know.

Well it's all a matter of opinion isn't it? If you really, really loathe capitalism and everything about it, or even just car dealers, you may well look on cash back as a bribe. Infact you may have any number of reasons for thinking it's a bribe or an attempted bribe. I wouldn't, personally, but that's my opinion based on my experience of car dealers, but if somebody else did want to call it a bribe, that's cool. There's no right or wrong in these things, just personal opinions.

And we get to the "it's all relative" crap. That ensures that you cannot possibly be proven wrong or shown to be out of proportion. I love it. It's as cowardly as "We'll agree to disagree".

Depends. Let's say there's a particular hotspot of homeless people next to a middle class area that the authorities want to target so go round offering immediate cash payments to encourage those people into a homeless shelter. Yes, that would be a bribe, I think. Normal benefits paid to all homeless people probably wouldn't.

I love conspiracy theories. So only ultra generalized activities are now innocent? What the hell?

One size fits all is bullshit - this isn't some idealized world. Applying specific methods to combat a larger problem is procedurally sound. Seems like you're arguing ideology versus pragmatism.

Paying drug addicts to have sterilisation operations is a bribe - unethical, shabby, inadvisable and actionable.

I like how you choose the most fear mongering word possible. It's a vasectomy. They are reversible (thank you India).

You're using "sterilization" to conjure up boogeymen ranging from Action T-4 of Nazi Germany to fears of things being "permanent". I don't appreciate fear mongering.