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Cash for vasectomy....
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RE: Cash for vasectomy....
Let me give you all a lesson that you will probably ignore anyway.

This type of incentive is classist its core. It supports the idea that one group of privileged people can decide when and how underprivileged have children. Because, you know, the way to help drug addicts is to tell them they don't deserve children and give them more money for drugs. Who do you honestly think this type of program will target the most? Poor people and people of color. It is not a slippery slope to say this has classist and racist implications, because it's there. It's right there in front of your face.

This is coercive bribery and and an exercise in eugenics. It lets people who have a dystopian world view claim they are doing good. What is their tactic? "Think of the children". Where have we heard that before...hmmm....gay marriage anyone? In this case you're trying to protect children that don't even exist instead of the real person who does exist. You want to help drug addicts? Then use that money for proven programs that actually help the person suffering from addiction and make available to them more reasonable birth control alternatives like the pill and condoms, like planned parenthood. Giving them $200 discriminates and simply feeds the problem. You're not helping, you're hurting.

This type of behavior is no better than those who would try to enforce pro-life legislation. You do not get to make reproductive decisions for another individual. This is at the core of the pro-choice movement, and what is most important is that to be pro-choice means you support a persons right to have or not have children. It is THEIR choice. It's a two way street, and this type of program attempts to control someone else's reproductive choices through coerced sterilization of people at their most vulnerable.

Of course, I've seen some people here make pro-abortion statements like "People should have a test before having children." If you have that world view, then it's no wonder you can't see this program for what it really is.

It's disgusting. It's bribery. It's eugenics. It's discrimination. You all should be ashamed.
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." Benjamin Franklin

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Cash for vasectomy.... - by ib.me.ub - October 18, 2010 at 8:53 am
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RE: Cash for vasectomy.... - by Autumnlicious - October 19, 2010 at 1:21 pm
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RE: Cash for vasectomy.... - by Shell B - October 18, 2010 at 8:04 pm
RE: Cash for vasectomy.... - by Rhizomorph13 - October 18, 2010 at 5:58 pm
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RE: Cash for vasectomy.... - by theVOID - October 19, 2010 at 3:16 pm
RE: Cash for vasectomy.... - by ib.me.ub - October 18, 2010 at 10:47 pm
RE: Cash for vasectomy.... - by Minimalist - October 19, 2010 at 3:36 pm
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RE: Cash for vasectomy.... - by ib.me.ub - October 19, 2010 at 11:46 pm
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RE: Cash for vasectomy.... - by Existentialist - October 23, 2010 at 5:42 pm
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RE: Cash for vasectomy.... - by Jaysyn - October 25, 2010 at 3:17 pm
RE: Cash for vasectomy.... - by Tiberius - October 25, 2010 at 2:53 pm

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