A good argument for God's existence (long but worth it)

[Brian37]

I am always for human rights and always will be Atlass, and x Muslims also do what you do in pointing out how Islam in the east is causing huge problems between Sunnis and Shiites along with the rest of the world.

But this is not strictly about Islam for me. This is about the totality of the species in our entire global history. For the same reason Sunnis and Shiites cant get along, a Trump voting Evangelical does not see the bible or politics the same way a Obama voting baptist or Catholic does. It is still the same God and the same book they both use. The same can be said for why a Tibet Buddhist will not see Buddhism or politics the same way as a Chinese Buddhist or Japanese Shinto Buddhists.

I am glad that you are willing to be brave to challenge your fellow Muslims in that part of the world, and I hope in all seriousness you don't end up dead for your intellectual bravery. I may give you a hard time but I sincerely mean it. People like you if they grow in numbers can pull that part of the world into modern civility.

Islam did not invent human cruelty. In our species totality there is not one region in the world that has been 100% violence free.  Christians used to look like too much of the east still looks today. While I don't want Israel wiped off the map, they too have their right wing nuts whom use religion to justify harm of others. 

My point is our species far too widely fails to consider that the reasons we do good or bad are not a battle from above, but a failure to see our behaviors as being in us.

But yea, I most certainly can live with a Muslim like you even if you never leave your religion. I don't think you need your religion but I certainly would not abandon anyone who values non violence and common law regardless.

One reason I'm sure about for abandoning Islam, is the attempt to escape the wrong acts inflicted by some of the followers of the same religion.
For example; 






You can guess what kind of feeling something like this might trigger if you know what the truth actually says. x-Muslims are usually displaying a rebound in faith because of such destructive mentalities -like the one in the video-. The doctrines influence such mentality. With every ignorant fatwa, you'll find rebounds.

In other words; it's pretty inviting to criticize and oppose. Bullshit is bad; Brian. Especially when it costs lives and destruction. It's medieval Europe allover again. 
And hey; allergy to it is good allergy if you ask me.

I hope that harm stays away. And thank you for you wish; honestly !

Opposing Israel can take two sides in my view: for xenophobic reasons (because it's a majority of Jews), or from respecting the Palestinian ownership of the land. What I mainly concerned about in Israel, is the same thing that makes me concerned about American history, and it's the same thing that makes me concerned about the Arab invasion of Spain in the past.

You never invade and send natives homeless. But Israel should not be opposed because they are Jews.  But because they cause years of misery to others, and all of it for a blue star on a flag.

We are not here to harm others; as far as I believe. But this life is intended to be a place where people might believe or disbelieve. But ignoring all that and go on a xenophobic rampage is only an indication of mental bankruptcy if you ask me.

Atlass, in my non existent "utopia" that I am not insane to consider a possibility, religion would not exist at all. But that is not the reality our world's population of 7 billion lives in.

Yes, you have your science denying fuckface idiots and violent idiots, but so do Christians and Jews. Religion isn't going away. Islam didn't invent delusional people, neither did Christians or Jews, it is our species that values and protects what is local even when that value of that claim is wrong, or cruel. 

The best the world can do, is sure, weed out those who deny science, or promote violence justified by religion. 

If Christians and Muslims and Jews want to prove to me they are for peace, they can, I wish they would. But "peace" to most in the world is "peace" where the other is a guest or a subordinate. 

Funny you should mention the Sun rotating around the earth. There is a clock, I think in Venice Italy built several hundred years ago, displaying that same celestial meme. So stupidity isn't a patent owned by Islam.